Wonder Women vs Supermen

1) The only use of the word Fanboy in this thread should be in reference to said member.

2) This isn't just WW vs Superman; Superboy, Troia and Wondergirl are their too.

3) CIS is off but they still fight in character, and the rules of the forum apply. Incidents that occur in stories which impact on continuity are not always considered canon if they contravene the rules of this forum, particularly in regard to CIS, PIS and SvFL.

Now on the actual topic.

Originally posted by Draco69
On to the bracelets. THERE. IS. NO. WAY. IN. HELL. Superman could EVER break those damn bracelets.

Why? The ENTIRE Greek Pantheon (full of Skyfather-level beings) opened a can of whup-ass on those bracelets by unleashing ALL their power collectively and combining it into one massive beam. The beam was described as "infinite power". Such blast would destroy planets and entire galaxies. But the bracelets? Not a scratch. The beam reflected of her bracelets and WW was left unharmed.

If everyone is fighting to full capability? Superboy and Superman take this one in five heartbeats. (I mean, there are five fighters....)

Unlikely. Wonder Woman can handle Superman alone for extended periods of time while Troia and Wonder Girl curbstomp Superboy. Then they all gangbang Superman.

And unfortunately Troia is now a Titanese Goddess of the Moon which she got a rather massive upgrade. Magic and Supermen don't mix.

If this was just Wonder Woman and Wonder Girl vs. Superman and Superboy than I would go with the Supermen because Wonder Girl would fall to Superboy and WW would be forced to face both Superman and his heir, which is a battle she can't win.

Troia dramatically tips the scales in favor of the WWomen.

Originally posted by Draco69
Then they all gangbang Superman.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Quoted for posterity. droolio

😆 I'm not the biggest DC fan, I enjoy Marvel quite a bit more (stop throwing things at me), but as far as DC and JLA go? Wonder Woman has got to be one of my favorite super heros. Even with a (notably massive - I LOATH superman) bias toward her, I will not disillusion myself for a mere moment to imagine that she could ever compete with the boy in blue.

Originally posted by Soljer
😆 I'm not the biggest DC fan, I enjoy Marvel quite a bit more (stop throwing things at me), but as far as DC and JLA go? Wonder Woman has got to be one of my favorite super heros. Even with a (notably massive - I LOATH superman) bias toward her, I will not disillusion myself for a mere moment to imagine that she could ever compete with the boy in blue.

Your massive bias is without sufficient knowledge then... (no offense meant... But Diana's a friggin beast. Good looking beast, but still a beast)

I still think fighting skills and her already comparable stats sshould get Diana a very slight majority. Throwing in the equipment, she should get a solid 6/10. Superman is not even twice as good as her in his only real advantages: Strength, speed, and durability. Diana has one of his quasi-weaknesses, magic, and a tremendous amount of fighting skills, which have proven sufficient to handle situations that appear even more one sided than this.

The Women stomp the men very easily as well... As Draco said, Superboy has absolutely no chance against Troia and Wondergirl.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Your massive bias is without sufficient knowledge then...

Reading for comprehension. Look in context, my bias is in Wonder Woman's FAVOR. You're telling me I am biased toward Wonder Woman without sufficient knowledge? Okay...

Furthermore, bias is usually defined as UNFAIR preference for something due to prejudice. I'm prejudiced toward Wonder Woman and against Superman in this fight. Is that unfair to Superman? Yeah, but even when things turn the wheel into Diana's favor, I'm not so blind as to be unable to tell you that this is a curbstomp. Superman Wins.

Originally posted by Draco69
Wonder Woman merely has to pray to the Godwave itself. Not the Greek Gods (in that issue she got the Godwave resided in the Greek Pantheon). The REAL Godwave is the source of all superpowers. The progenitor of the Speed Force. The reason Supermen, Wonder Women, and superpowers exist at all. Diana only requires a small moment to do so. Superman has to fly to the sun, sit there for a while, come out and THAN fight. Diana merely has to think "Give me the Godwave".

Can Diana only use it for a limited time? Yes. A few seconds at most. But when you're the most powerful being in existence, time is irrelevant. WW just blips him out of existance.

Diana does not merely think give me the godwave. The issue where she called it had her going at it for 2 1/2 pages of groaning and trying to control the power. If she didn't do all that concentation and whatnot she would have exploded. Superman doesn't need to sit in the sun for any great amount of time to take out WW. He needed to sit there for a while during OWAW because he was fighting a DEVOURER OF GALAXIES. He can just fly through and then accelerate to past light speed and blitz diana while she's groaning about the power of godwave.

But is WW vulnerable while she is gathering the Godwave?
Canneling that much energy could offer her some added protection. Does any one know for sure?

Originally posted by Soljer
Reading for comprehension. Look in context, my bias is in Wonder Woman's FAVOR. You're telling me I am biased toward Wonder Woman without sufficient knowledge? Okay...

Furthermore, bias is usually defined as UNFAIR preference for something due to prejudice. I'm prejudiced toward Wonder Woman and against Superman in this fight. Is that unfair to Superman? Yeah, but even when things turn the wheel into Diana's favor, I'm not so blind as to be unable to tell you that this is a curbstomp. Superman Wins.

I know who you like more, but I disagree with you all the same. I said "massive bias" because I was quoting your own words... Superman has NEVER actually "curbstomped" over Diana. He always gets the upper hand, but she always puts up a VERY good fight. Now, what happens when she USES some fighting skills? Pulls a block or two, maybe a pressure point strike here or there... She depowered herself and defeated Shiva, Killer Croc, and Cheetah simultaneously for training. She's at least top 5 in DC, and only because of people like Batman 1,000,000 and Karate Kid. She also has a fair arsenal of magical weaponry at her disposal. The tiara CAN cut Superman. What happens if she actually throws it to kill?

He dies?

Good answer.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I know who you like more, but I disagree with you all the same. I said "massive bias" because I was quoting your own words... Superman has NEVER actually "curbstomped" over Diana. He always gets the upper hand, but she always puts up a VERY good fight. Now, what happens when she USES some fighting skills? Pulls a block or two, maybe a pressure point strike here or there... She depowered herself and defeated Shiva, Killer Croc, and Cheetah simultaneously for training. She's at least top 5 in DC, and only because of people like Batman 1,000,000 and Karate Kid. She also has a fair arsenal of magical weaponry at her disposal. The tiara CAN cut Superman. What happens if she actually throws it to kill?

What happens when superman get's ready to kill? We have seen wonder woman at that state, but never superman. As much as the writer's tell us that he is ready, he really isn't. Superman can never be in that state. That is the whole point of his character. In the end, he can never kill someone with intent. We don't know what superman TRUELY bloodlusted can do, but we can judge off stats. And by and large, superman is a notch above. If somebody managed to push big blue over the top, superman doesn't just get ready to kill 1 person. Superman's bloodlust would be him not caring about anybody. Imagine what someone like him could do with homicidal rage and absolutely no moral limits. At his current post-crisis level, he can't chuck planets like before, but you can bet he'd be pissed enough to drop the moon on the earth. No more wonder women.

Originally posted by cheap cabbage
What happens when superman get's ready to kill? We have seen wonder woman at that state, but never superman. As much as the writer's tell us that he is ready, he really isn't. Superman can never be in that state. That is the whole point of his character. In the end, he can never kill someone with intent. We don't know what superman TRUELY bloodlusted can do, but we can judge off stats. And by and large, superman is a notch above. If somebody managed to push big blue over the top, superman doesn't just get ready to kill 1 person. Superman's bloodlust would be him not caring about anybody. Imagine what someone like him could do with homicidal rage and absolutely no moral limits. At his current post-crisis level, he can't chuck planets like before, but you can bet he'd be pissed enough to drop the moon on the earth. No more wonder women.

WW and SM are almost equal, except she's better in combat and better weapons and he's slightly stronger and slight faster.

Originally posted by long pig
He can't drop a moon, dude. Get your head out of your ass. Stop hiding behind the "He holds BAKZORZ!!". It's never valid, it will never BE valid.

WW and SM are almost equal, except she's better in combat and better weapons and he's slightly stronger and slight faster.

Warworld> moon. I win.

Originally posted by long pig
He can't drop a moon, dude. Get your head out of your ass. Stop hiding behind the "He holds BAKZORZ!!". It's never valid, it will never BE valid.

WW and SM are almost equal, except she's better in combat and better weapons and he's slightly stronger and slight faster.

Long Pig is always the voice of reason ✅

Originally posted by cheap cabbage
Warworld> moon. I win.

He was amped to a HUGE level when he pushed Warworld.

Fighting skills>Random punching.
Magic princess crown>Superman.

Why does everybody use the Tiara cut his throat deal? He was mind controled at the time. If Max wasn't f*cking with his head it would be well within his speed level to dodge such a attack.

I'll give you guys WW is close to him in strength. But speed and durabitly are not even close.

If anybody says she is please back it up.

http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/analyses/appendices/ratings1.html

I think most people will agree that she is a step below Superman in terms of druability and speed but her fighting skill should make up the difference