Thanos V. Deities
Thanos V. Deities
Nebula w/ IG
When Nebula got the IG, she wasn’t experienced enough to use it; hence the heroes went for a direct attack. Strange manages to secretly protect Thanos. When Nebula found out, Strange got locked up.
Nebula made a stupid mistake in reversing time back to 24 earlier (to undo Thanos’ work).
Again, an IG wielder stomps them. And where’s Strange and his awesome powers again?
She stomps them after she got better hold of her powers. And more stuff about being omnipotent. In some ways she is and some ways she isn't. You'll get what I mean later.
And please take note of her attacks on them. I'll bring up Strange and Warlock's attack to see the difference.
Warlock w/ IG
Warlock gains the IG and frees the deities.
- 2nd pic: He “promises to use it wisely.”
- 3rd pic: Surfer, Strange, and Masterson Thor worries and warns Warlock of corruption by power. Warlock assures them he won’t be corrupted. 🙄
- 1st: Warlock fast forwards time 60 days into the future. Warlock refers to himself as GOD.
- 2nd: Thanos refers to Warlock as the “Supreme Being.”
Warlock Is Corrupted...Gee what a big surprise
Warlock V. Strange.
Apperantly some people think what Strange did was comparable to what LT. Funny thing is, Warlock used only one gem at a time against Strange. The whole time Strange is on the defensive, needing every spell in the book just to counter Warlock's one gem attacks.
- 1st Pic: Strange pulls every talisman he had out.
- 2nd: He sends Strange to the future and tries to convince Strange that the result of Earth if Warlock’s will wasn’t done. This isn’t even comparable to Thanos or Nebula’s attack. Odin can send people to through time as well (Thor: Across All Worlds)
- 3rd: He sends Strange far away using the Space Gem. He then alters reality. Wow, big feats! My god, that’s such a high end feat…that skyfathers and Cube Beings have done. 🙄
1st: Warlock uses the Mind Gem…and plays mind tricks? Gee, it’s not like Strange hasn’t been in the dream world without his powers and outwitted Nightmare to gain his powers back. What Warlock did amounted to Xavier or Moondragon’s attack.
2nd Pic: Warlock is still acting like a pissed off d!ck, and using the Power Gem this time. :laughing: I don’t even know how one can call that a counter. Looks like Warlock missed or Strange dodged.
3rd: Strange finally reaches Warlock through the Soul Gem…to convince Warlock not he’s wrong. Gee, Strange sure stalemated and countered Warlock there. 🙄
LT & TOAA
Again Warlock claims omnipotence as Thanos and Nebula did when they had the IG. While the deities claim LT represents a power above Eternity and the IG.
Warlock again refers to himself as “this reality’s supreme being.” Warlock gets pissed and attacks Eternity. Note this attack is nothing like what he did against Strange. The Gems were used in unison, and Eternity is on his knees from that attack.
Warlock attacks the court for “daring to judge him.” Note everyone is being blasted away or trying to block it (Ziran the Celestial). Also note that LT (to the right of the flying head Master Order), however, is just sitting there. LT stops that attack cold and even restores everyone, even Eternity continues his case as if he didn’t even take a direct attack from Warlock. Again, LT refers to working for a higher power. Warlock – acting like the d!ck he said he wouldn’t if he had the IG – dimisses LT’s claim.
Nothing Strange did was even remotely close, nor was anything Warlock did to Strange even as devastating. One gem attacks was exactly what Thanos did against the heroes. If anything, Strange just proves he did what the heroes couldn’t.
Eternity claims the IG for himself, but Warlock speculates that Eternity may be more powerful than TOAA if Eternity got the IG. It’s not a surprise for Warlock to think Eternity w/ IG would be more powerful than TOAA; Warlock did earlier dimiss TOAA being more powerful than him even though TOAA’s servant LT wasn’t affected by Warlock’s attack and even reversed it.
This is where some claim LT wasn’t more powerful than the IG. Funny thing because LT doesn’t hesitate to pass judgement even though Warlock’s only defense is that being the master of Time, Space, Soul, Power, Mind, and Reality. Like that matter. 🙄 Didn’t stop LT from making his ruling.
Warlock gives up his power in the end. Still yet to show Warlock harming LT in any way. The only thing that was going to be harmed was Warlock’s reality. LT affected the IG, while Warlock couldn’t reverse or do a thing to LT. This amounted to Odin V. Thanos. Thanos stood up to Odin, but he never harmed Odin in any way. Asgard itself was torn. Anyone here wanna claim Odin wasn’t more powerful than Thanos?
LT>IG
Strange K.O.ed just by info about Eternity. - Infinity Wars
IW, Death's Infinity Well also claims the IG wielder as omnipotent and GOD.
And LT does serve TOAA. LT also stopped the IG from working.
Magus needed LT to allow the IG to work again. With 5 Cosmic Cubes, Magus was hidding from LT and Galactus.
Eternity appeals and LT activates the IG again.
More claims of being GOD. Magus even turns the Nullifier on Quasar.
Turns out the Reality Gem was a fake.
But LT's ruling was real. And Eternity himself again confirm's TOAA.
Warlock in his coma just after Infinity War, talks to Eternity and confirms TOAA being LT's power to rule the IG from working together.
During Infinity Crusade, the Goddess blasted Warlock into another reality. As he traveled, Warlock refers again to when he was GOD. And also to TOAA being above GODS.
You see Bee i feel quite the b*stard now because you've gone to all of this effort only for me to tell you that you've yet again proven nothing. Well nothing that supports your case anyway.
I have already explained to you the reason Strange was brought into the equation already but 4 replies later youre still reacting to my mentioning of Strange as if i was equating him to LT. So you've wasted your time posting a dozen scans and smug comments showing me what I and the forum already know, that LT is more powerful than Strange. Why on earth did you that?
I will tell you one more time (after which i will just ignore anymore comments on the area). Strange was only mentioned to show that LT isnt the only being to have countered the power of the IG (a point you could have tried to use to your advantage if that was the case). That is the only reason. LT countered it better because as we all know he's a lot more powerful than Strange so that stands to reason. I hope you now see how very very silly you were to waste your time showing me how much below LT Strange is. 🙁
Well with all those Strange discrediting scans out of the way you have very argument left, nothing which hasnt been addressed before or cant be now. 🙂
All the comments on panel about the IG making the user God come from the users themselves. It isnt stated by non biased captions (i.e captions which arent themslves quotes from said characters) it is just speculation from the users who with the IG have gained a taste of omnipotence and have access to power beyond any they've seen employed by any of the abstracts/higher beings. So its not surprising they equate themselves to God. They've seen no better, therefore they know no better. However the fact that since the IG affair beings have been shown on panel to wield greater power and the fact that its stated that LT's master is apparently beyond the IG tells you that such comments are just speculation, there is no fact to them.
During Infinity Crusade, the Goddess blasted Warlock into another reality. As he traveled, Warlock refers again to when he was GOD. And also to TOAA being above GODS.
And your point is? Thats nothing new to what was said in Infinity Watch. It just supports it. LT's master is beyond Eternity and the IG. Thats cool. Doesnt equate to him being the supreme being as hes not the only power beyond the IG, the so called god maker. 🙂
Eternity claims the IG for himself, but Warlock speculates that Eternity may be more powerful than TOAA if Eternity got the IG. It’s not a surprise for Warlock to think Eternity w/ IG would be more powerful than TOAA; Warlock did earlier dimiss TOAA being more powerful than him even though TOAA’s servant LT wasn’t affected by Warlock’s attack and even reversed it.
Which is all well and good but as aforementioned countering the IGs attack isnt something thats only within LT's power to do. Dont you for one minute go off into a rant about Stranges attempts paling in comparison to LT's counter. Of course they did because LT is more powerful but it doesnt change the fact that he still managed to counter it. On top of that even Eternity says that in his totality( which he obviously cant employ within the universe as his totality is the universe therefore hes restricted to Mbodies with a portion of his might) the IG couldnt harm him. SO LT countering the IG isnt something unachievable by other beings and it still ( even after half a dozen attempts to persuade otherwise) doesnt conclusively even equate him to the IG. Especially when you bear in mind Stranges performance and Eternitys comments.
This is where some claim LT wasn’t more powerful than the IG. Funny thing because LT doesn’t hesitate to pass judgement even though Warlock’s only defense is that being the master of Time, Space, Soul, Power, Mind, and Reality. Like that matter. Didn’t stop LT from making his ruling.
LTs ruling was just that a ruling, it was only words, not an act. So your point about not hesitating to make his ruling is somehwat moot. He then had to back up those words with physical force. Something he opted not to do after first agreeing with Adam that he didnt know how his power would fare against the IG's. Thats the crux of the matter. Sorry Be.
Warlock gives up his power in the end. Still yet to show Warlock harming LT in any way. The only thing that was going to be harmed was Warlock’s reality. LT affected the IG, while Warlock couldn’t reverse or do a thing to LT. This amounted to Odin V. Thanos. Thanos stood up to Odin, but he never harmed Odin in any way. Asgard itself was torn. Anyone here wanna claim Odin wasn’t more powerful than Thanos?
Rubbish comparison and irrelevant comments as LT and Adam never fought. LT countered one of Adams attacks (something Strange has done to less success and something Eternity claims he could do in his totality) and they then debated during which time LT agreed to not knowing how his power measured up to Adams. If LT states that on panel that he doesnt know, then how can you have the audacity to come on this comic book forum and talk as if you can make up his mind for him? Who are you to do that?
Lts comment means under no circumstance whatsoever can you say he is beyond the IG. That is a fact.
With all this in mind (LT's and Eternitys comments) at best you can place LT on the same tier as the IG. While he has one of the most important roles in the multiverse and is likely the most powerful physical being of reality he is not however as seen on panel (HOTU and X-men Forever incidents) the most powerful force. You made the mistake of confusing role with power. Its cool. Easy mistake to make. 🙂
Spectre has already shown feets greater then that so what if the ig was not strong enough to stop LT it wasnt even strong enough to defeat dr strange and if spectre was nullified as you claim the source would probably have to bring him back or something of that nature just as darkseid had to be brought back after spectre destroyed him.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]You see Bee i feel quite the b*stard now because you've gone to all of this effort only for me to tell you that you've yet again proven nothing. Well nothing that supports your case anyway.
🙄
I have already explained to you the reason Strange was brought into the equation already but 4 replies later youre still reacting to my mentioning of Strange as if i was equating him to LT. So you've wasted your time posting a dozen scans and smug comments showing me what I and the forum already know, that LT is more powerful than Strange. Why on earth did you that?
You've explained nothing. Warlock attacked Strange with one Gem each. Furthermore, Warlock was trying to convince Strange he was right. Where in that did you see an attack on the level of what Warlock did during the trial?
Strange countered individual Gems, not the IG. Get it through your head.
I will tell you one more time (after which i will just ignore anymore comments on the area). Strange was only mentioned to show that LT isnt the only being to have countered the power of the IG (a point you could have tried to use to your advantage if that was the case). That is the only reason. LT countered it better because as we all know he's a lot more powerful than Strange so that stands to reason. I hope you now see how very very silly you were to waste your time showing me how much below LT Strange is. 🙁
Strange countered individual Gems only. What part of that don't you get? Additionally, did you see Eternity, Death, Galactus, or any of the deities countered an attack by Warlock, Nebula, or Thanos?
If the deities couldn't counter that attack, what makes you think Strange can? Strange countered individual Gems by a merciful Warlock. The deities have held down Thanos and Nebula's attack for a time also. During those fights, Strange was running errands for Warlock during Thanos' fight and chained up during Nebula's fight with the deites.
Your saying Strange countered the IG when he did no such thing except against individual Gems. I'm saying to you LT stopped and reversed an attack that ETERNITY, CHAOS, ORDER, WATCHER, ZIRAN, STRANGER, LOVE, HATE, AND EPOCH couldn't!
No one's saying the IG's attack couldn't be countered. An inexperience Nebula was also secretly countered by Strange. When I said LT countered the IG's attack, he did. Your argument is Strange countered the IG and therefore what LT did was nothing special. The difference is LT countered and reversed an attack that cosmic beings surpassing Strange couldn't.
All the comments on panel about the IG making the user God come from the users themselves. It isnt stated by non biased captions (i.e captions which arent themslves quotes from said characters) it is just speculation from the users who with the IG have gained a taste of omnipotence and have access to power beyond any they've seen employed by any of the abstracts/higher beings.
Durh! That's the whole point. They consider themselves GOD and Omnipotent. Mephisto and the Infinity Well has also refered to them as such. But guess what? There not? They like many other claim omnipotence, but it's just a claim. It's just like Strange claiming Oshtur omnipotent. Sise-Neg was supposedly GOD. Phoenix? :laughs: Same bullcrap.
So its not surprising they equate themselves to God. They've seen no better, therefore they know no better. However the fact that since the IG affair beings have been shown on panel to wield greater power and the fact that its stated that LT's master is apparently beyond the IG tells you that such comments are just speculation, there is no fact to them.
It just shows that an IG wielder is only GOD to one actuality, the supreme being of one dimension. Anything to do with GOD/Supreme MU itself is entirely b.s. like Sise-Neg and Phoenix.
And your point is? Thats nothing new to what was said in Infinity Watch. It just supports it. LT's master is beyond Eternity and the IG. Thats cool. Doesnt equate to him being the supreme being as hes not the only power beyond the IG, the so called god maker. 🙂
What did the Infinity Watch say again? I don't even know what your even talking about.
Are you talking about the Infinity Well when it told the history of Warlock? I guess your going to argue a talking Well is biased as well.
Beyond the IG and Eternity? In his second appearance, it's stated that LT was created to rule over and safe keep all dimensions. The normal universe is just one dimension of many. Magus gathered Cosmic Cubes from five of them just to use them to hide from LT while operating in a distant dimension. Hence Galactus needed Strange's experience with dimension travel to find Magus. The IG's powers doesn't extend to all dimensions.
Which is all well and good but as aforementioned countering the IGs attack isnt something thats only within LT's power to do. Dont you for one minute go off into a rant about Stranges attempts paling in comparison to LT's counter. Of course they did because LT is more powerful but it doesnt change the fact that he still managed to counter it.
He was absent when Thanos was operating at full power. He managed to secretly counter an inexperienced Nebula's wish; she chained him without a problem once she found out. He pulled every talisman out only to be on the defensive against Warlock who was using individual Gems. But then again, the fact that LT countered what cosmic beings surpassing Strange in power and abilities seem to pass your mind.
On top of that even Eternity says that in his totality( which he obviously cant employ within the universe as his totality is the universe therefore hes restricted to Mbodies with a portion of his might) the IG couldnt harm him.
Since when hasn't Eternity appeared in his M-Body? He still surpasses beings like Chaos, Order, Galactus, Death, and the rest of the deities.
Celestials also use M-Bodies as well, there true form originates in hyperspace. But when any beings talking about them, they aren't talking about the Celestials true forms. The Earth pantheon got stomped by M-Bodies of the Celestials. When Kubik talked about a Celestial they saw, that wasn't even it's true form. The Watcher's race were going to get stomped by the Celestials/M-Body - not even the true form of the Celestials.
Of every appearance or reference to these beings' powers, it's always there M-Bodies. Heck, it's their M-Bodies that show up to interact with the physical world. Every power displayed and where they are in the power hierachy is because of their M-Bodies.
It doesn't take away from them anything. It just means they're more powerful in you consider there true forms.
SO LT countering the IG isnt something unachievable by other beings and it still ( even after half a dozen attempts to persuade otherwise) doesnt conclusively even equate him to the IG. Especially when you bear in mind Stranges performance and Eternitys comments.
Durh! That wasn't the point. Your trying to say Strange countered the same power output that LT did. In actuality, all Strange countered was individual Gem attacks, not even in the league as the IG used in unison.
Try to keep up G.S. Strange's encounter with Eternity has always been with M-Bodies. Everybody who runs into Eternity and commented on Eternity's might refers to the M-Body they see before them; otherwise there would be no interactions at all. Warlock, Thanos, Strange, Watcher, and Galactus would be talking to space.
LTs ruling was just that a ruling, it was only words, not an act.
Words? Such words and yet the IG couldn't operate, only individual Gems. Only words yet Warlock felt like letting go in his coma because there was nothing left to do after LT ruled against the IG's unity. Yup, just words that became law.
The Magus wouldn't need Galactus and Eternity to appeal to LT to allow the Infinity Gauntlet to work again if those words weren't binding.
He couldn't get the thing working even with five Cosmic Cubes to grant wishes. LT reversed his ruling and the IG worked again.
So your point about not hesitating to make his ruling is somehwat moot. He then had to back up those words with physical force.
Physical force? LT wasn't even affected. LT was never on the defensive. The IG couldn't do a thing to LT. Prove me wrong on that.
I guess your going to argue Odin isn't more powerful than Thanos since Odin couldn't put Thanos out. Or that Oshtur and Hoggoth together weren't more powerful than Agamotto because they reasoned with him into letting Galactus and Strange leave.
Something he opted not to do after first agreeing with Adam that he didnt know how his power would fare against the IG's. Thats the crux of the matter. Sorry Be.
When did he agree with Warlock? He ruled against Warlock. If Warlock fought, reality would be wasted. Reality would suffer, not LT. He's never been affected by the IG.
Rubbish comparison and irrelevant comments as LT and Adam never fought. LT countered one of Adams attacks (something Strange has done to less success and something Eternity claims he could do in his totality)
Eternity never claimed he could counter. Strange didn't do what LT did. Get that through your head.
and they then debated during which time LT agreed to not knowing how his power measured up to Adams.
LT never agreed. :laughing:
If LT states that on panel that he doesnt know, then how can you have the audacity to come on this comic book forum and talk as if you can make up his mind for him? Who are you to do that?
You high or something? Warlock said that.
Lts comment means under no circumstance whatsoever can you say he is beyond the IG. That is a fact.
Except when the IG was operational again after Eternity appealed and LT reversed the ruling. And when the IG was non-operational after Eternity reversed his earlier appeal.
With all this in mind (LT's and Eternitys comments) at best you can place LT on the same tier as the IG.
On the same tier? LT's able to prevent the IG from working in unison while the IG hasn't done a thing to LT. Your so confused.
While he has one of the most important roles in the multiverse and is likely the most powerful physical being of reality he is not however as seen on panel (HOTU and X-men Forever incidents) the most powerful force.
Actually he never claims to be the most powerful. He's created to guard the multiverse. He's the servant of TOAA.
You made the mistake of confusing role with power. Its cool. Easy mistake to make. 🙂 [/B]
Yeah, it's not like some of us who claim Phoenix's role makes her an Aspect of GOD and therefore greater than HOTU and LT. But, it's cool.
Originally posted by Beyonder
🙄You've explained nothing. Warlock attacked Strange with one Gem each. Furthermore, Warlock was trying to convince Strange he was right. Where in that did you see an attack on the level of what Warlock did during the trial?
Strange countered individual Gems, not the IG. Get it through your head.
Strange countered individual Gems only. What part of that don't you get? Additionally, did you see Eternity, Death, Galactus, or any of the deities countered an attack by Warlock, Nebula, or Thanos?
If the deities couldn't counter that attack, what makes you think Strange can? Strange countered individual Gems by a merciful Warlock. The deities have held down Thanos and Nebula's attack for a time also. During those fights, Strange was running errands for Warlock during Thanos' fight and chained up during Nebula's fight with the deites.Your saying Strange countered the IG when he did no such thing except against individual Gems. I'm saying to you LT stopped and reversed an attack that ETERNITY, CHAOS, ORDER, WATCHER, ZIRAN, STRANGER, LOVE, HATE, AND EPOCH couldn't!
No one's saying the IG's attack couldn't be countered. An inexperience Nebula was also secretly countered by Strange. When I said LT countered the IG's attack, he did. Your argument is Strange countered the IG and therefore what LT did was nothing special. The difference is LT countered and reversed an attack that cosmic beings surpassing Strange couldn't.
Ive just decided to group this waffle together as its all been handled before. Did you not read any of my last 5 posts? Why have you decided to go down the Strange is nothing to LT angle once again when ive already told you the point of bringing him into the equation? I will say no more on the matter, you've misunderstood the point or you havent bothered to read the explanation therefore i will not expend my time catering for you.
Also id love for you to show me where its stated or shown that Adam employed all of the gems in his attack on the court. I didnt see any reality warping, time manipulation etc or anything on panel to indicate it was anything more than a power blast. You assume too much Bey. Show me where thats stated or how thats indicated otherwise be silent on the matter.
The fact remains that in both circumstances the full power of the IG wasnt employed and in both circumstances they both only countered the power. Lt was more successful because hes more powerful than Strange. The same thing stands for why he dealt with Adams attack better than the abstracts yet even Eternity said if he employed his totality against the IG it wouldnt be able to affect him in any way. Nowhere is it shown or stated that LT is beyond the IG. Thats just your fantasy. Keep it behind closed doors. 😮
Originally posted by Beyonder
Durh! That's the whole point. They consider themselves GOD and Omnipotent. Mephisto and the Infinity Well has also refered to them as such. But guess what? There not? They like many other claim omnipotence, but it's just a claim. It's just like Strange claiming Oshtur omnipotent. Sise-Neg was supposedly GOD. Phoenix? :laughs: Same bullcrap. It just shows that an IG wielder is only GOD to one actuality, the supreme being of one dimension. Anything to do with GOD/Supreme MU itself is entirely b.s. like Sise-Neg and Phoenix.
A point not very well made by yourself as per usual. At least where Phoenix is linked on numerous occassions in numerous titles to God (unlike some 🙂 ) she has not only the feats, but also the role to back it up. Phoenix is after all the creator of the multiverse.
Originally posted by Beyonder
What did the Infinity Watch say again? I don't even know what your even talking about.Are you talking about the Infinity Well when it told the history of Warlock? I guess your going to argue a talking Well is biased as well.
Garbage. You've lost yourself. Refer back to my previous posts and read again, carefully this time.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Beyond the IG and Eternity? In his second appearance, it's stated that LT was created to rule over and safe keep all dimensions. The normal universe is just one dimension of many. Magus gathered Cosmic Cubes from five of them just to use them to hide from LT while operating in a distant dimension. Hence Galactus needed Strange's experience with dimension travel to find Magus. The IG's powers doesn't extend to all dimensions.
Thats all thats stated about LT's master so thats all that can be claimed about him. Fact!! 🙂 LTs master may have created him to watch over the multiverse but you cant equate him to the supreme being based on that alone. If we were to just go by indications and not hard stated fact then we would all be accepting Phoenix as the power of the supreme being. She after all creates the multiverse LT is appointed to guard.
Originally posted by Beyonder
He was absent when Thanos was operating at full power. He managed to secretly counter an inexperienced Nebula's wish; she chained him without a problem once she found out. He pulled every talisman out only to be on the defensive against Warlock who was using individual Gems. But then again, the fact that LT countered what cosmic beings surpassing Strange in power and abilities seem to pass your mind.
You are a lost cause Bey. I have told you the reason why Strange was mentioned and yet youre still after many an explanation posting about how poorly he compares to LT. Its cool if you dont understand. Others who have read the thread have and that is why theyve posted their support . 🙁
Originally posted by Beyonder
Since when hasn't Eternity appeared in his M-Body? He still surpasses beings like Chaos, Order, Galactus, Death, and the rest of the deities.Celestials also use M-Bodies as well, there true form originates in hyperspace. But when any beings talking about them, they aren't talking about the Celestials true forms. The Earth pantheon got stomped by M-Bodies of the Celestials. When Kubik talked about a Celestial they saw, that wasn't even it's true form. The Watcher's race were going to get stomped by the Celestials/M-Body - not even the true form of the Celestials.
Of every appearance or reference to these beings' powers, it's always there M-Bodies. Heck, it's their M-Bodies that show up to interact with the physical world. Every power displayed and where they are in the power hierachy is because of their M-Bodies.
It doesn't take away from them anything. It just means they're more powerful in you consider there true forms.
The point of the matter is that Eternity as he stated could stand up to the IG if he faced it in his totality, however as his totality is the actual 616 universe he could not do that without disastrous effects on all that lies within said universe. With that in mind LT countering the power of the IG to such a level isnt something only achievable by him, its also not an action which automatically places him above the IG. It was a counter and nothing more. As aforementioned you would need to have on panel LT overcoming Adam in battle or displaying a feat of power beyond any the IG has shown to say hes superior to it. You have none of those things therefore you have no case. 🙁
Originally posted by Beyonder
Durh! That wasn't the point. Your trying to say Strange countered the same power output that LT did. In actuality, all Strange countered was individual Gem attacks, not even in the league as the IG used in unison.
That isnt what i was trying to say at all. Ive explained to you many a time why i even mentioned Strange. You seem to have bypassed that point with every attempt at a rebuttal. As a result the majority of your posts have all been about discrediting Strange which doesnt affect my argument at all so youre wasting your time because youre missing the point. Refer back to previous posts so you can catch up. I'll wait for you.
As aforementioned show me where it was stated or shown that Adam employed all the gems in his attack on the court. We saw no indication of that whatsoever. Adam just unleashed a blast of energy which repelled the abstracts. Your argument is 100% speculation and for that im ever so sorry. 🙁
Originally posted by Beyonder
Try to keep up G.S.
😂
Originally posted by Beyonder
Strange's encounter with Eternity has always been with M-Bodies. Everybody who runs into Eternity and commented on Eternity's might refers to the M-Body they see before them; otherwise there would be no interactions at all. Warlock, Thanos, Strange, Watcher, and Galactus would be talking to space.
Eternity uses M bodies to manifest within himself as he cant obviously employ his totality within his totality. He was saying that if he employed his totality he would be easily stand up to Adam himself. So we know its something thats possible but presumably with disastrous consequences because of all of the life that exists within said totality. My point is that LT isnt the only one who can so successfully counter the IG. However all it was was a counter there was nothing stated or shown that conclusively proves LT even equates to the IG. You've just made the jump and said that hes beyond the IG, disregarding the fact that LT never too the IG by force but actually talked Adam out of a confrontation.
LT doesnt have the on panel feats to place him above the IG. He doesnt have the feats to equate himself to the IG. He countered its power, something Strange has done (less successfully because hes less powerful) and something Eternity can apparrently do if allowed to employ his full power. It was only a counter nothing more. The scene confirms only that LT is the supreme physical being and nothing more.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Words? Such words and yet the IG couldn't operate, only individual Gems. Only words yet Warlock felt like letting go in his coma because there was nothing left to do after LT ruled against the IG's unity. Yup, just words that became law.
Your understanding leaves me despairing sometimes. 😂
LTs ruling was just words, words he needed to enforce with an application of power. He agreed that he didnt know how his power would stand up against Adams therefore he needed to persuade Adam into abiding by his ruling. The act of making the ruling didnt dismantle the IG in itself.
If LT could just make a ruling and his word would become reality then after coming to a decision he would have had no need to persuade Adam to abide by it. If Adam didnt abide by it then they wouldve had to have battled it out as LT stated himself on panel. A battle which would have destroyed the universe. Therefore he made Adam abide by his ruling by taking him on a guilt trip 🙂
With Adam in agreement the ruling was completed and the court session was adjourned
