Originally posted by jinzin
DC must be insane... pffft... again... the ignorance of making fun of people for doing nothing more than believing a FICTIONAL character can do what a fictional character HAS DONE in their own RESPECTIVE fictional world.... regardless of the explainations given numerous times and evidence to back it up.... doh
Relax. What's really funny is that people assume when we talk about taking these punches the person is always hitting Bats on the armor. What about his unprotected jaw? That's what I've been saying for the longest in the Spidey VS Bats thread. Spidey punches him full on and his head explodes. Then the Batguys bring up his suit.😮 Spidey's known for attacking the face(sometimes even when he should be going for the bodyshots like when he fights Wolvie). If Bats has armor that can take a full force Supes punch, that's news to me.
Originally posted by jinzin
actually it showed a few things....
first off.. webbing didn't work... AGAIN...
second off infallible spider sense DID NOT WORK.... AGAIN....
and finally... that grabbing wolverine leaves him open for attack... simple as... if you refuse to see at LEAST that much then there's no point in further debating with you.
No man. It shows that when Spidey grabs him that way that it leaves him open for attack. Grab him differently. It's pretty obvious.
Originally posted by jinzin
good for him.... now lets see him apply it to wolverine....which he would have to grab logan in order to do.... he's going to have a hard enough time "dodging everything" that the chances of this flesh removal task working are extremely slim... yet you think the odds are in his favor here... 😕
No. If a Spidey who was probably pissing his pants and felt like he was moving in slo mo was able to dodge absolutely everything and still get off his attacks, why can't an older more experienced one who's not terrified of Wolvie? Isn't he even faster now?
Originally posted by jinzin
which is simply an interpretation of the events that took place.. nothing further...I believe he wore himself out due to going all out on wolverine to no avail.... he usually doesn't have to try that hard to put a guy down...
but again that's just my interpretation...
And you have a right to it. Mine is that if a person has an unbreakable head, you should try punching them in the body or nuts instead of wasting your time doing something that doesn't seem to be working. It's an old boxing expression "Kill the body, and the head will fall". Spidey was fighting dumb and he knew it, hence "I'm slow and stupid". Would you have kept punching him in just his face? Not likely. He fought very moronically. I really don't see how anyone can't see the logic in my interpretation.
Originally posted by jinzin
what is fact here? he fought wolverine... wolverine held back... spiderman was tired and wolverine wasn't.... any arguments in favor of spiderman's endurance simply don't make sense.which is again.. nothing further than a presumption.
looking at the evidence that goes against it, it's rather one that AGAIN is negated by evidence...
if wolverine was trying to hit spiderman why didn't he when he had the chance to do so? he had 3 chances and took advantage of none of them....
3 chances that came only after Spidey letting him tackle him. An experienced fighter like Wolvie probably knows when somebody is letting you do something. Wolvie rarely kills people who ain't trying to kill him or somebody he cares for. Once Spidey let up Wolvie probably decided that since Spidey was nice enough to stop punching him, that he'd return the favor by putting the claws back and just punching him. If he was in "nice mode" the whole fight, why wouldn't he keep the claws in the whole fight? I'd still like to see proof of Wolvie letting Spidey hit him. 2 things we are sure of: (1) Spidey did hit him. (2) Spidey did let Wolvie tackle him. Wolvie letting Spidey score hits has yet to be proven. Why would Wolvie have bothered to dodge any hits in the 1st place?
Originally posted by jinzin
answer: he didn't want to hurt spiderman (AGAIN)... wolverine has swung his claws at multiple opponents in dozens of different comics with no intention of harming them... it would seem illogical to say that we was trying to hit spiderman up until he had the chance and then simply changed his mind... it's like your secret wars example.. it's selective about which PARTS of an event are relivent... saying that secret wars was PIS free where spiderman and wolverine were concerned was another way of saying that the OTHER PIS involved in the situation didn't matter to the overall event... which is bias... justlike this claim...
Still don't get it? It merely doesn't matter HERE. If what Spidey did to Wolvie isn't something he can't logically do the PIS involving others doesn't really mean much to this debate then does it? If Spidey can logically do this then you no longer need to bring up what happened to the other people. Right? This is Spidey VS Wolverine.
Originally posted by jinzin
cause he DID let spiderman hit him 😮nfused:and we uhhh HAVE shown proof... 😕
Wrong on both counts. You think you have, but you haven't
Originally posted by jinzin
stop pulling out your buddy the strawman.. that's not what I was saying at all.. what I'm saying is that you're being extremely selective.. if there was numerous PIS in FAVOR of spiderman for the rest of that fight then why would it not apply to him when he reached wolverine? the same bias for spiderman was still put into effect so to say that the other PIS is irrelivant is wrong...
If that's not what you're saying, then why are you still talking about it? You're complaining about somthing that logically could happen? Make sense please.
Originally posted by jinzin
again.. lacking any real argument without fallacy you rely on insults to do for you what your intelligence has failed to do.... ❌batman got KOed by deathstroke some years ago.. he hadn't started taking supes and ww punches and darksied beat downs till recently... he didn't develop spectra till recently... me thinks there's some connection...
unless of course you're under the impression he's just wearing tights.. 🤨
I'm not. Can Batman take a full on Supes punch to the jaw?
