Could spidey beat wolvie with out webs?

Started by jinzin23 pages
Originally posted by brainchild81
The nutshot incident, while very amusing, wasn't a hostile encounter. Spidey was trying to contain Logan, not rip flesh from his bones. Ripping flesh from bones shouldn't take someone w/Spidey's speed and strength that long. The CIS included thing may be a problem though. Wouldn't Wolvie pass out 1st though if Spidey did the repeated organ/muscle removal tactic? If so Spidey wins by KO and leaves Wolvie to healI wouldn't go that far. In SWars(No PIS/CIS are far as it concerns Spidey & Wolvie) Wolvie was unable to touch him(Save for getting backhanded). In the graveyard Wolvie scored a grand total of zero hits until Spidey flat out let him tackle him. Spidey felt like he himself was fighting stupid and in slow motion and Wolvie still couldn't connect @ all or even evade Spidey's attacks for that long. If Spidey goes into dumb slugfest mode(Spidey's @ his best here right?), Wolvie's got a good chance @ hitting him(as do Kingpin and many others who are honestly not fast enough to hit Spidey). If Spidey lets Wolvie hit him like he did in the graveyard, Wolvie's got a good chance of hitting him 😆 Spidey @ his best is not getting hit by Wolvie until he's good and tired.

nut shot incident proves one great point though.. IF spiderman were to try and grab logan he's going to be grounding himself down and opening himself up to attack..... it's just a bad strategy when wolverine's the one with the foot long claws at the end of his wrists... one miss on spiderman's behalf and he could get aced....

how "surprising" 🙄 that all the OTHER pis that occured for spiderman in secret wars is irrelevant as long as it suits your views for spidey vs. wolverine....

graveyard fight, wolverine was pulling punches and literally let spiderman hit him too....

what happens when wolverine stops pulling punches? ...... spiderman gets hit....

and if it comes down to it who gets tired first?

well considering wolverine's already fought spiderman to a point of exhaustion and wolverine himself was just fine.. well....

Originally posted by jinzin
nut shot incident proves one great point though.. IF spiderman were to try and grab logan he's going to be grounding himself down and opening himself up to attack..... it's just a bad strategy when wolverine's the one with the foot long claws at the end of his wrists... one miss on spiderman's behalf and he could get aced....

how "surprising" 🙄 that all the OTHER pis that occured for spiderman in secret wars is irrelevant as long as it suits your views for spidey vs. wolverine....

graveyard fight, wolverine was pulling punches and literally let spiderman hit him too....

what happens when wolverine stops pulling punches? ...... spiderman gets hit....

and if it comes down to it who gets tired first?

well considering wolverine's already fought spiderman to a point of exhaustion and wolverine himself was just fine.. well....

Wolverine got to hit Spider-man when he pulled his punches? Are you making that up? He didn't manage to land a decent one till Peter went for the kill and had second thoughts while letting himself open.

d-d-did you not even read that?

it says when wolverine STOPS pulling punches.. spidey gets hit every time.

Originally posted by jinzin
d-d-did you not even read that?

it says when wolverine STOPS pulling punches.. spidey gets hit every time.

*kicks Jinzin* 😇

Funny... it almost looks like... that if Wolverine tries, then he is too much for spiderman to dodge...

Originally posted by jinzin
it's called spectra... batman's suit allows for him to take superhuman amounts of punishment.. and it's not as if they are hitting him full force... not as if he's just standing there getting hit either.. he always roles with those punches.... given those circumstances.. he can most certainly take super powered punches from those people.. and yeah I kanbda have to accpet it as cannon fact as it IS cannon fact... 🙄

So you think that triple-lined kevlar and nomex-weave suit is apparently enough to make you survive punches from beings that can literally lift billions of tons, and apparently stops also the punches causing any internal damage. You also seem to think that Batman is fast enough to roll with punches coming near-lightspeeds at him...and it is not like the rolling would have much effect on a punch of that magnitude...

Okay, I would say that you are probably the only one here to think so... 😕

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I could get you probably ten different pictures of Batman taking punches of angry Superman. You would then believe that Batman can do so, would you? And mention this for example if Spider-Man VS Batman fights? I mean, Spidey can only dream of hitting with same kind of punches then a bloodlusted Superman...Batman has recovered from Superman punches in minutes. Would you take this as canon fact? Batman has taken punches from Superman (and other strong characters, like Wonder Woman) over and over and over again.

Or does this rule only apply at Wolverine?

No... sadly this was an argument had in Spider-Man vs Batman... according to some it's not PIS when Batman is hit by Superman and survives...

Originally posted by jinzin
it's called spectra... batman's suit allows for him to take superhuman amounts of punishment.. and it's not as if they are hitting him full force... not as if he's just standing there getting hit either.. he always roles with those punches.... given those circumstances.. he can most certainly take super powered punches from those people.. and yeah I kanbda have to accpet it as cannon fact as it IS cannon fact... 🙄
Batman's not indestructable like that, AND furthermore to make him that way is disrespectful to batman himself.... to think he was getting beat by much weaker foes.

The concussive force ALONE would own batman... this is simply ridiculous...

I'm not so sure that batman can take punches from superman, I remember in 'a death in the family' batman hit superman and neally broke his hand.

Good post. Anybody who thinks he can is insane. 😆 They should however report to any Superman Vs threads and say "Supes can't even kill Batman!!!! He loses"

Originally posted by jinzin
nut shot incident proves one great point though.. IF spiderman were to try and grab logan he's going to be grounding himself down and opening himself up to attack..... it's just a bad strategy when wolverine's the one with the foot long claws at the end of his wrists... one miss on spiderman's behalf and he could get aced....

how "surprising" 🙄 that all the OTHER pis that occured for spiderman in secret wars is irrelevant as long as it suits your views for spidey vs. wolverine....

graveyard fight, wolverine was pulling punches and literally let spiderman hit him too....

what happens when wolverine stops pulling punches? ...... spiderman gets hit....

and if it comes down to it who gets tired first?

well considering wolverine's already fought spiderman to a point of exhaustion and wolverine himself was just fine.. well....

The nutshot only shows that when Spidey's not trying to hurt you, he can grab you in a hold that is easily gotten out of if he just stands there and lets you. I've seen Spidey put holds on people that couldn't be broken out of. There are a few ways Spidey(with his superhuman strength, speed and flexibility) can grab Wolvie that Wolvie would be powerless to break free off. I'm not talking about Spidey putting wolvie in locks and holds anyway. I'm just talking about flesh removal. Won't take that long for Spidey because of the strength and speed. Make no mistake dude, I know Spidey's endurance is nothing compared to Wolvie's. He has however fought for days though. Spidey wore himself out in that book because he was fighting stupid as humanly possible because of fear of death(Wolvie still couldn't touch him. Wolvie didn't pull punches until after Spidey LET him get a hit in. Up until that point he had the claws out and was trying to connect and failing.) Wolvie didn't let Spidey hit him @ all. Why do people keep saying that without any proof whatsoever? Fighting smart expends way less energy than fighting dumb. The pis for everybody else IS irrelevant Jinzin. This is Spidey Vs. Wolvie the last time I checked. Are you trying to say that Spidey can't do that to Wolvie?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So you think that triple-lined kevlar and nomex-weave suit is apparently enough to make you survive punches from beings that can literally lift billions of tons, and apparently stops also the punches causing any internal damage. You also seem to think that Batman is fast enough to roll with punches coming near-lightspeeds at him...and it is not like the rolling would have much effect on a punch of that magnitude...

Okay, I would say that you are probably the only one here to think so... 😕

I refuse to believe that Jinzin really thinks that. He's just bulls**ting himself and us because he's in need of something to support his side of the issue and there's not much "real" stuff to go on. If Jinzin really believes that I'm gonna run upstairs and start crying 😆 Knowing that Jinzin is absolutely insane would be bad.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Batman's not indestructable like that, AND furthermore to make him that way is disrespectful to batman himself.... to think he was getting beat by much weaker foes.

The concussive force ALONE would own batman... this is simply ridiculous...

He takes Supes punches and gets KOed by Deathstroke. Makes no sense. Waitaminute. DS went to Karate class. It makes perfect sense now 😮

Originally posted by brainchild81
Good post. Anybody who thinks he can is insane. 😆 They should however report to any Superman Vs threads and say "Supes can't even kill Batman!!!! He loses"

The nutshot only shows that when Spidey's not trying to hurt you, he can grab you in a hold that is easily gotten out of if he just stands there and lets you. I've seen Spidey put holds on people that couldn't be broken out of. There are a few ways Spidey(with his superhuman strength, speed and flexibility) can grab Wolvie that Wolvie would be powerless to break free off. I'm not talking about Spidey putting wolvie in locks and holds anyway. I'm just talking about flesh removal. Won't take that long for Spidey because of the strength and speed. Make no mistake dude, I know Spidey's endurance is nothing compared to Wolvie's. He has however fought for days though. Spidey wore himself out in that book because he was fighting stupid as humanly possible because of fear of death(Wolvie still couldn't touch him. Wolvie didn't pull punches until after Spidey LET him get a hit in. Up until that point he had the claws out and was trying to connect and failing.) Wolvie didn't let Spidey hit him @ all. Why do people keep saying that without any proof whatsoever? Fighting smart expends way less energy than fighting dumb. The pis for everybody else IS irrelevant Jinzin. This is Spidey Vs. Wolvie the last time I checked. Are you trying to say that Spidey can't do that to Wolvie?

I refuse to believe that Jinzin really thinks that. He's just bulls**ting himself and us because he's in need of something to support his side of the issue and there's not much "real" stuff to go on. If Jinzin really believes that I'm gonna run upstairs and start crying 😆 Knowing that Jinzin is absolutely insane would be bad. He takes Supes punches and gets KOed by Deathstroke. Makes no sense. Waitaminute. DS went to Karate class. It makes perfect sense now 😮

Thats what it is... that combat training... gotta love Karate Class.

Superman can split small moons in half. Literally, without effort.

Apparently Jinzin thinks that Batman's durability with his suit >>>>>>> a small moon's durability.

This thread is a friggin' joke! Most Wolverine fans can't see the fact that Spidey CAN take Wolvie w/o webbing. Would it be easy? No. Might Wolvie have the advantage more times than not? Probably. But Cripes, any thread involving Wolverine always goes to 20+ pages. It's friggin ridiculous! Just answer the f*****g question people! We don't need a gospel about why Wolvie can take him. That's not the question. And yes, Wolverine fans AND fanboys, Spidey CAN....I repeat CAN take Wolverine w/o webbing. Gosh, there are so many Wolverine fans who just ruin it for a character whose attitude I enjoy. I admire Wolvie's courage to enter any scrum even if he doesn't know he'd get his ass kicked, but so many of you Wolvie fans make it hard for me to keep liking him.

good point bobby but spidy fans an't see that spidey can and has been defeated by wolverine. Your very right in saying that spidey could beat wolvie with out webs. But anybody that says it's 10 out of 10 for spidey is delusional and needs to read any of their encounters with out writing in their own ideas. I say spidey with out webs is like 4 out of 10, he is able to beat wolverine.

The thread title should be changed a little. Yes spiderman can beat wolverine 3/10 so he CAN do it.

Uhm little to late to do that now.

NEVER for the power of a mod

Well I like what it's called and I have had no complaints plus it has attracted alot of posts.

no I meant people get confused. People keep saying yes spidey can beat wolvie 1 time can. Changes thread to Wolvie vs Spidey(with no web)

Oh right, well I think it's OK the way it is, they should read the first post by, me cause it explains.