Originally posted by Rick/GenisBecause, although he can probably throw a 747 and crash it into the moon. He can only knock Wolverine a few feet.
Yeah.... I'd find it kindof weird if Hulk Can take out Black Bolt and Doctor Strange in the span of an issue... why he wolverine would last more than 5 panels would be a bit.... odd.
Originally posted by JuntaiMakes perfect sense to me. Seeing as those fights are made like both characters are to the best of their abilities in their non-crossover fights.
Because, although he can probably throw a 747 and crash it into the moon. He can only knock Wolverine a few feet.
And, Wolverine has claws.
Originally posted by capt it upIt's not to the Moon but a decent punch. Jen stated it was to the next county. 😛
sorry but I find it funny when people try and use the if wolverine got punch he end on the moon crap............seeing as how iuf any one 10 tons or more punch any character they go flying.........
I just love these double standers people set.
Originally posted by capt it upIt depends on who hits them. Spiderman won't hit that hard, but Hulk would. And I hope you don't mean as in force because trained fighters can hit with a ton or so force and don't send anyone flying.
sorry but I find it funny when people try and use the if wolverine got punch he end on the moon crap............seeing as how iuf any one 10 tons or more punch any character they go flying.........
I just love these double standers people set.
Bad writing is bad writing in my opinion.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It depends on who hits them. Spiderman won't hit that hard, but Hulk would. And I hope you don't mean as in force because trained fighters can hit with a ton or so force and don't send anyone flying.Bad writing is bad writing in my opinion.
Bro the problem is there is alot of stuff that doesnt make any sense in the MU. For starters if the Hulk is able to lift 100,000s of tons he should be breaking stuff and killing people by accident all the time. But he doesnt.
Furthermore he should be able to flex his muscles and the pure force generated by the muscles should be able to be projected. But he doesnt.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Im sorry but that is logical. His muscles have the power to lift 100,000s of tons or eeven millions. If the Hulk can gnerate force by clapping two hands together, why cant the flexing of two muscles gnerate enough kinetic force for it to project outwards.
Another thing if the Hulk onely weighs a certain amount and his arms are strong enough to lift 100, 000s of tons shouldnt his leg musles be able to make him move as fast as a speedster?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry but that is logical. His muscles have the power to lift 100,000s of tons or eeven millions. If the Hulk can gnerate force by clapping two hands together, why cant the flexing of two muscles gnerate enough kinetic force for it to project outwards.Another thing if the Hulk onely weighs a certain amount and his arms are strong enough to lift 100, 000s of tons shouldnt his leg musles be able to make him move as fast as a speedster?
Hulk can run quite fast can't he? I'm sure I read he can but obviously using those same leg muscles for leaping it means he can cover a greater distance faster.
Wonderman at one point used to leap like the Hulk, before he could fly and after his jet packs had been destroyed fighting Gamma Burn (man I'm a geek!)
And he could also use his legs to run pretty fast, Ginger and Spider were following him in a car and had him clocked at 40mph.
Simon looked at them and then took off leaving the car standing and zig zagging out of other cars in traffic.
So if Ionic leg muscle allows you to leap like the Hulk, I wonder if Hulk leg muscles enable you to run like Wonderman? 😕
Its still not Quicksilver fast but pretty fast all the same and Rhino is Gamma powered and he can run pretty fast too. 😕
Originally posted by Alfheimdur
Im sorry but that is logical. His muscles have the power to lift 100,000s of tons or eeven millions. If the Hulk can gnerate force by clapping two hands together, why cant the flexing of two muscles gnerate enough kinetic force for it to project outwards.Another thing if the Hulk onely weighs a certain amount and his arms are strong enough to lift 100, 000s of tons shouldnt his leg musles be able to make him move as fast as a speedster?
Originally posted by Hercules
Hulk can run quite fast can't he? I'm sure I read he can but obviously using those same leg muscles for leaping it means he can cover a greater distance faster.Wonderman at one point used to leap like the Hulk, before he could fly and after his jet packs had been destroyed fighting Gamma Burn (man I'm a geek!)
And he could also use his legs to run pretty fast, Ginger and Spider were following him in a car and had him clocked at 40mph.
Simon looked at them and then took off leaving the car standing and zig zagging out of other cars in traffic.
So if Ionic leg muscle allows you to leap like the Hulk, I wonder if Hulk leg muscles enable you to run like Wonderman? 😕
Its still not Quicksilver fast but pretty fast all the same and Rhino is Gamma powered and he can run pretty fast too. 😕
Ok bro im not talking about leaping im talking about running. How much does Thor weigh or The Hulk? These guys can lift millions or 100,000s of tons and your telling me they can run at 40 mph
Ok think about it they can lift millions of tons and they weigh very little in comparison. How fast do you think they should be able to logically run?
The WM example is pretty impressive but all class 100s should be able to run that fast and faster if they can lift millions or 100,000s of tons.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It depends on who hits them. Spiderman won't hit that hard, but Hulk would. And I hope you don't mean as in force because trained fighters can hit with a ton or so force and don't send anyone flying.Bad writing is bad writing in my opinion.
a ton of force do you mean in comic because in real life it's a lot less. or are you using a hypbole
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry but that is logical. His muscles have the power to lift 100,000s of tons or eeven millions. If the Hulk can gnerate force by clapping two hands together, why cant the flexing of two muscles gnerate enough kinetic force for it to project outwards.
Hulk has no powers that would allow him to convert:
ChemicalE --> KineticE --> ConcussiveBlasts
Originally posted by Alfheim
Another thing if the Hulk onely weighs a certain amount and his arms are strong enough to lift 100, 000s of tons shouldnt his leg musles be able to make him move as fast as a speedster?
Yeah. Thats why has around ClassicQS is running speed and can jump almost into orbit.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok bro im not talking about leaping im talking about running. How much does Thor weigh or The Hulk? These guys can lift millions or 100,000s of tons and your telling me they can run at 40 mphOk think about it they can lift millions of tons and they weigh very little in comparison. How fast do you think they should be able to logically run?
The WM example is pretty impressive but all class 100s should be able to run that fast and faster if they can lift millions or 100,000s of tons.
Umm, they might have muscles strong enough to lift 100 of tons, but these muscles aren't necessarily super fast. You do know that strenght doesn't necessarily mean = speed. We've seen Hulk lift huge things with ease, but has the movement been super fast?
If a super strong character has lots of explosive power he could probably jump high, but would he be able to move his legs fast enough to gain super fast running speed?
By your logic, weight lifters could outrun sprintters with ease..
And, we need to remember that we're talking about comics here, Wolverine jumps 50ft in the air, but is only able to lift 2 tons at best 😕 I guess Hulk is pretty much the same then 😄
Originally posted by AlfheimMy point is that he doesn't send him flying anyway because it's a crossover battle. Hulk does break things all the time. 😐
Bro the problem is there is alot of stuff that doesnt make any sense in the MU. For starters if the Hulk is able to lift 100,000s of tons he should be breaking stuff and killing people by accident all the time. But he doesnt.Furthermore he should be able to flex his muscles and the pure force generated by the muscles should be able to be projected. But he doesnt.
My point was he does all of these great things in his own showings, but it is written down to make crossover fights better, that's common knowledge.
Originally posted by jasofiscNot that many tons, but about 600-2200 lbs per square inch if applied correctly.
a ton of force do you mean in comic because in real life it's a lot less. or are you using a hypbole