Originally posted by illadelph12
I might not be able to finish this round and have to forfeit. It looks like I have to fly to Dallas on Wednesday morning, and I don't know if I'll have net access in my hotel room. 🙁
If I have net access down in Texas I'll continue.I'll do what I can for now.
A lot of points to cover.
Shame. 🙁 Hope you have internet access.
Originally posted by illadelph12
About the Vibranium;No, it won't dampen heat.
The properties of vibranium (the Wakandan Vibranium Agent X's suit consists of) deals specifically with the dissipation of sound waves, vibrations, and concussive force, not heat. High explosives can still destroy vibranium, the metal will simply muffle the sound of the explosion. Also, extreme heat will still slag the metal and make it malleable so it can be formed into armor, boots, etc. Agent X is walking around in a soundproofed oven.
Agent Zero’s armor isn’t only vibranium. It has other materials which can protect him from being near to center of explosions like this:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4938/agentzero39ya.gif
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7916/agentzero44dm.gif
Originally posted by illadelph12
About the asphyxiation (exfixiation), Karate Kid can fly above the smoke with Vertigo if necessary (and as a tactic to rain down the pulse). Gamora has artificial enhancements that will allow her to survive in hostile environments like this for extended periods of time (this isn't her first smoke filled battlefield), and Living Monolith can operate for extended periods of time without need of breathing (as can Thing).
Proof of him being able to survive the heat better then Agent Zero…?
Originally posted by illadelph12
First off, I find it funny that you assume Blitzkrieg can simultaneously create tornado force winds (that won't effect his own teammates), defend himself from a sonic attack, defend himself from a heat blast from Living Monolith, and do all of this while he's exerting himself to direct these winds to put out a large magnitude forest fire. Blitzkrieg is not Storm, he's not going to be tossing around tornadoes and hurricanes. Let me dispel this misconception first:Blitzkrieg can propel [b]himself
at 120 mph by charging particles in a funnel to create a whirlwind for propulsion, and then on top of that, he has to generate a continuous arc of lightening between his feet and the ground to stay in flight. [/B]
First off,
Blitzkrieg isn’t going to put out the whole forest fire. Only the fire and smoke that is going near him. While he is doing it, the wind is also around him, and negates attacks of Vertigo. Second off. Blitzkrieg can fly up to the skies and hover above the forest fire. And third off, he can make a shield around himself to protect himself from fire and heat if he decides to stay on ground..
You seem to have assumed that it takes him long time to activate his powers…it doesn’t.
Here is how fast he can achieve flight: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1552/blitz30kd.gif
And here is how fast he can make a tornado (And it also shows that he can control its intensity and it doesn’t automatically draw metal at him): http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1707/blitz58tt.gif
You also seem to think that he can’t do much while concentrating on flying. That is not the situation…http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6407/blitz43vu.gif
Originally posted by illadelph12
As I said before, Blitzkrieg is going to give away your position. If he flies above the fire he's going to be a big lightning beacon in the sky, and he can't propel himself through the air if he's using his manner of propulsion (the wind he generates with the charged particles) to blow back the smoke. At best, he'd be able to use his winds from an elevated position, but he'd have to train them downward and would leave himself open to either Vertigo or Monolith. It's either one or the other.
Blitzkrieg doesn’t generate wind in the same way then your average weather controller does. He charges the particles in the air and manipulates them, now that they are charged with electricity and he has control over electricity. So its not wind in the way that normal wind is. Same effect, still.
But, as it is not same kind of wind, what stops him from manipulating particles in two different places? What you are saying is that he isn’t able to make winds in another place if he is flying. All he has to do is charge particles in another place and be flying on the same time. And Blitzkrieg has done this before. In fact, he is doing so every time he is flying, since wind isn’t the force that is keeping him aloft. He doesn’t ride the lightning, he rides the charged particles.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Also, Blitzkrieg's wind affects are small in scope. He doesn't generate a Storm-like wall of wind, he can generate a focussed stream of wind for propulsion that won't effect a wide area, especially not the size of a forest. Show me Blitzkrieg generating tornado level winds over a wide area, while in flight.
Yep, and like I said, he isn’t going to put out the whole forest.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Also, on top of that, if Blitzkrieg is hurling 140 mph tornado force winds, Agent Zero and Karnak are going to be wind tossed in my direction (neither of them weigh above 300 lbs, and 140 mph winds can toss cars around. I'm sure you watched the Hurricane Katrina coverage). Unless they're behind Blitzkrieg's position, he's going to be blowing them away. And if they are behind Blitzkrieg, he's given away your position. 👇
Neither is he going to make winds with intensity of 140 mph. 👇
Next:
Originally posted by illadelph12
Show me he can.In an inferno, among a dense redwood forest that's ablaze, it's going to be very hard to distinguish heat signatures. Show me where Agent X has used his visor to distinguish and track specific heat signatures in a smoke filled inferno, and I'll acquiesce. Also show me how he's going to be able to keep his footing and do this while his teammate is behind him tossing tornado force winds in the direction he's travelling in.
If Blitzkrieg uses his winds to blow away the smoke, he won't be able to fly, and his teammates will have to stay behind him as he does this or risk being blown away in the winds he generates. Being that we are in a dense Redwood forest, this gives me ampel opportunity to flank you, as my flyer will be available to me. 👇
If Blitzkrieg takes to the air, he'll give away your position due to the manner in which he flies. He generates an arc of electricity underneath himself which extends to the ground, and he generates a vortex of wind to propel himself through the air. He'll be a lightning beacon in the sky, and downed by Vertigo just as Rogue was in the scan I provided, or blasted by Monolith. Not to mention the smoke screen will continue to cover the battle field, and Blitzkrieg's abilities work by line of sight. He's inoperable. 👇
Already been addressed. He can fly on the same time when he is charging particles:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/832/blitz64ln.gif
Now on Agent Zero’s tracking abilities, he might probably not find Gamora, granted. But it should not be hard to find the source of all this, Living Monolith. The guy makes ridiculous amounts of noise and Agent Zero can also seem from the trees and surrounding environment where the blasts were fired. One or two adamantium bullets will take Monolith out – and he won’t be hearing them before it’s too late.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Agent X's former armor (as Maverick) had self-sustaining life support equipment. There's no evidence that his new vibranium armor has the same abilities, and his bio gives the impression that it doesn't. Please provide evidence to the contrary. Until then. 👇
Agent Zero has survived a gigantic explosion from close range. I’m not sure about it, but I think explosions generate lot of heat:
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6219/agentzero35is.gif
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8/agentzero45zm.gif
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/875/agentzero51hc.gif
