Originally posted by demigawd
um...if he's ALWAYS underwritten, then that's not underwritten. That's him.I'm not going by how strong he's *supposed* to be, I'm going by how strong he's been shown to be. If he's underwritten, that's his problem...those are the feats I have to take into consideration when ranking him.
I understand what you mean....wait till i show you my scans... that will take some days.
for now here's my list:
Marvel:
1) Temugin/Shang-Chi (can't really separate the 2...so a notch below is)
2) Iron Fist (The perfect martial Artist. he will be 2-3 notches abv the next fighter)
3) Daredevil (the ult ninja....slightly abv..)
4) Black Panther (a notch abv..)
5) Captain America (a notch abv...)
6) Wolverine
ppl like Cap, DD, BP can beat the top tiers by out thinking them. Wolverine can those better than him in h2h thanks to healing factor. Wolvie..cap, BP have strength advantage against the rest. This list is merely h2h.
Originally posted by joesha28This list makes no sense, you sound like one of those guys who trains karate for 12 years and loses a street fight,but still tries to say that hes a better martial artist, we are basing these things off of how its applied not how well, a human has as much jaw strength as a great white shark, doesnt mean our bite does equal damage.
for now here's my list:Marvel:
1) Temugin/Shang-Chi (can't really separate the 2...so a notch below is)
2) Iron Fist (The perfect martial Artist. he will be 2-3 notches abv the next fighter)
3) Daredevil (the ult ninja....slightly abv..)
4) Black Panther (a notch abv..)
5) Captain America (a notch abv...)
6) Wolverine
ppl like Cap, DD, BP can beat the top tiers by out thinking them. Wolverine can those better than him in h2h thanks to healing factor. Wolvie..cap, BP have strength advantage against the rest. This list is merely h2h.
Here is why you shld respect the Iron fist....
He's a bullet timer...
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist11yl.png
He uses his chi-power to crush a gun to dust....
http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist27dy.png
Cuts a pole with bare hands...
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist35dx.png
Punches a speeding van to a halt...check out how a passenger flew out.
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron16pm.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron27zj.png
Originally posted by joesha28
Here is why you shld respect the Iron fist....He's a bullet timer...
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist11yl.png
He uses his chi-power to crush a gun to dust....
http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist27dy.png
Cuts a pole with bare hands...
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist35dx.pngPunches a speeding van to a halt...check out how a passenger flew out.
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron16pm.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron27zj.png
Originally posted by joesha28
Here is why you shld respect the Iron fist....He's a bullet timer...
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist11yl.png
He uses his chi-power to crush a gun to dust....
http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist27dy.png
Cuts a pole with bare hands...
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist35dx.pngPunches a speeding van to a halt...check out how a passenger flew out.
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron16pm.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron27zj.png
You know, I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, yeah, those are great feats. But on the other, it furthers my belief that he's something of a one trick pony. I could give any of the other martial artists on the list the iron fist and they could do all the exact same things. I understand that he developed the iron fist and it wasn't given to him, so lots of respect. But most of the other martial artists on this list have similar feats without using what basically amounts to energy projection.
It's debateable, but I classify the iron fist with the likes of Cap's shield and Wolverine's claws and Batman's...everything else. They're more tools than an indication of the user's skill.
I know your obvious retort will be, "Cap was given his shield, Iron Fist MADE his iron fist", and I won't have a really good counter for it, but still...there's just something less impressive about being a character with an innate energy attack.
Where do you place Iron Fist on the overall list?
Originally posted by joesha28and got his ass whooped by cap...
Here is why you shld respect the Iron fist....He's a bullet timer...
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist11yl.png
He uses his chi-power to crush a gun to dust....
http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist27dy.png
Cuts a pole with bare hands...
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fist35dx.pngPunches a speeding van to a halt...check out how a passenger flew out.
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron16pm.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iron27zj.png
Are we rating these people interms of pure fighting skills or fighting ability? Skillfully wise, Shang-Chi, Taskmaster, Elektra are among the top. However fighting wise, id put Daredevil above the likes of those characters. Is he AS skilled as them? Not quite. Maybe in some instances, but because of his senses, he does and will have an advantage over them in most situations.
