I beg to differ.
When therefore it was evening, on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst, and *said to them, "Peace be with you." 20And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side. The disciples therefore rejoiced when they saw the Lord," (John 20:19-20).
"And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39"See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." (Luke 24:38-39).
The problem with this objection WrathfulDwarf
is that it fails to recognize the fact that after the resurrection, Jesus said, "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have," (Luke 24:39), not "flesh and blood." This is not simply a play on words. Every word in the Bible is inspired and this phrase was used by Jesus on purpose.
The term "flesh and blood" is a phrase used in scripture in different contexts, but denotes the natural order.
"And Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven," (Matt. 16:17).
"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places," (Eph. 6:12).
"Since then the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil," (Heb. 2:14).
Jesus had shed His blood on the cross. It quite literally had drained out of His body. We see that when Jesus rose from the dead, He still had the holes in His hands and feet (Luke 24:39). Since He retained the characteristics of His bodily ordeal, it is logical to state that His blood, which was literally drained from His body, was likewise still shed. Therefore, His body could be raised and the blood remained shed as the thing that "makes atonement": "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement," (Lev. 17:11).
That is why after the resurrection, to prove that He had risen in the same body He died in, Jesus told people to touch His hands and feet because it was the hands and feet that had the holes in them. What more proof do you need to but see and touch the very same hands and feet that had the holes in them from the nails on the cross! Furthermore, in the same statement Jesus said that He possessed flesh and bones, not flesh and blood. He had risen!
What you're saying is fine. However, given the fact that I'm not a bible quoter (something I avoid in these discussions) and cannot go agaisn't the word of God. I find it that Jesus Resurrection had to be a spiritiual and not a physical event.
According to faith you do not need to touch nor see the spirituality of Jesus. You feel it...you experience...you cannot grasp it with your hands. Is an experience like no other. It is a state of pure divinity. And you mention "he has risen" Again, the flesh is sin. A corporal body cannot enter or elevate itself into the heavens. For it is not pure or cleanse. It needs to be free of all sin before entering heaven.
WrathfulDwarr, (read second post) I kind of see were you are comin from, but Jesus had flesh and bones. Also, Jesus had a glorfied body. So, all in all Jesus ressurection was a physical event.
Also, heres some food for thought,
"Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body," (John 2:19-21).
The phrase "I will raise" is translated from the single Greek word "egeiro." "Egeiro" is the future, active, indicative, 1st person singular. The active voice in Greek designates who is performing the action. In this case, since it is first person, singular ("I"😉, Jesus is saying that He Himself would perform the action of the resurrection. This is precisely what the Greek says.
However, some still deny that Jesus rose from the dead physically even when examining John 2:19-21. We can clearly see that Jesus prophesied that He would raise up the temple of His body as is clarified in verse 21 by John the apostle who states that Jesus was speaking of "the temple of his body." Therefore, this should be conclusive proof that Jesus rose from the dead in the same body He died in. Clearly, John 2:19-21 shows us that Jesus predicted He would raise His very body and He did so.
His birth and death was a physical event. His Ressurection was a spiritual and metaphysical event. I can't say otherwise. His body wasn't glorify. It was meant to be torture and crucify. His body was also for testing when the Devil tormented him. His words and teachings are far more stronger destruction than any temple. And as I mention before the purity of his sould had to be freed from all sin. He had to be free from all flesh.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. For his body was buried and never found after his resurrection. So yes...the physical body is the key to his resurrection.
ITs not a question of whether or not you were taught it.
Its if you actually believe it. IF you think that it was a physical ressurection.
Personally I dont think so. As the son of god, he would have no need for that body and his spirit left it. And a spirit can be just as strong as a body, well in my opinion.
Originally posted by Son of Man
Jesus was a monothestic Jew. He would diffently not be speaking about that. (Read the passage, John informs us what he meant. He was much closer to the time of Jesus Christ than you and I, so it's best to listen to him.)
So, Jesus didn't know anything about reincarnation? So, the son of god was not all knowing?
Shaky, please dont twist my words.WrathfulDwarf, yes his body was beaten. But the Bible says he rose bodily from the dead. (remember he ate food and had bones)
People please understand the Bible says he had flesh and bones. Dont try to interpret it your own way. It's not a matter of what you think it clearly says in the Bible that it was physical. I t in not a matter of interpatin, but a matter of wgat the Bible clearly says.
And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39"See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." (Luke 24:38-39).