Jesus Resurrection was physical.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
But God only said that, according to you, in the Bible.

Basic logic dictates that you cannot use what the Bible says in order to prove that the Bible is proof so that we can use what the Bible says.

Hence, he is not necessarily disputing with God unless you can use an independant, non-bibilical source to probe that the Bible is God's word.

You'll need an argument to do that, so I hope you are interested in arguing this time. And if you are not, accusations like the one you just made against Bardock are a waste of time for all. And also rather judgmental.

Dearest Ushgarak,

I am compelled to do this, I believe that you leave me no other choice.

forum
One entry found for forum.

Main Entry: fo·rum
Pronunciation: 'for-&m
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural forums also fo·ra /-&/
Etymology: Latin; akin to Latin foris outside, fores door -- more at DOOR
1 a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business b : a public meeting place for open discussion c : a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2 : a judicial body or assembly : COURT
3 a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

With all/utmost respect Ushgarak, I don't have to argue a thing when is that going to register. This is a for-um and a forum is not limited to debate. In fact, a forum is simply a medium as it were for OPEN DISCUSSION not a place for people to assail one another with information and facts. I hope this post does not offend you, if it does then I apologize.

^ wow... that was long.. and loopppyyy...

but i got your point...

oh well.. it's your point of view..

all i know is i believe in the bible.. ^_^

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
^ wow... that was long.. and loopppyyy...

but i got your point...

oh well.. it's your point of view..

all i know is i believe in the bible.. ^_^

Me too bruddah 🙂

you spend most of your time here JIA??

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Dearest Ushgarak,

I am compelled to do this, I believe that you leave me no other choice.

forum
One entry found for forum.

Main Entry: [B]fo·rum
Pronunciation: 'for-&m
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural forums also fo·ra /-&/
Etymology: Latin; akin to Latin foris outside, fores door -- more at DOOR
1 a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business b : a public meeting place for open discussion c : a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2 : a judicial body or assembly : COURT
3 a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

With all/utmost respect Ushgarak, I don't have to argue a thing when is that going to register. This is a for-um and a forum is not limited to debate. In fact, a forum is simply a medium as it were for OPEN DISCUSSION not a place for people to assail one another with information and facts. I hope this post does not offend you, if it does then I apologize. [/B]

Dear JesusIsAlive

While finding the definition of forum is all well and good, there has, for a long time, been a general consensus that this forum is primarily geared towards debate of a religious nature. Previously this forum was part of the General discussion forum before becoming a stand alone sub forum. Upon it's creation a moderator made this thread, which I believe use to be a sticky.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=320215&highlight=forum+rules+forumid%3A80

In it he specified the following:

Lastly, as a general rule of thumb, we ask that you please refrain from starting threads that would be considered "advertising", i.e. threads that encourage one to contact the thread author in regards to joining a club, denomination, or other religion based group. These threads are considered spam, and will not be tolerated. Please note that KMC, nor its members or staff, do not necessarily share the thoughts or opinions of its registered users, and should not be implied.

This means that a thread started with no purpose other then conversion as it's goal would be considered not in the spirit of the forum - there by rights should be the option for debate is, where you put forth an argument, and somebody replies. You can try to convince them, and you can certainly post your view, but it is not in the spirit of the forum to simply claim you can post your view and there is no reason for you to justify it or engage in debate on the subject. Other forums members have a right to question your claims, and the claims of the Bible, and they are not wrong in expecting, in the spirit of the forum, a reply or counter argument.

Yours Sincerely, Imperial_Samura

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
you spend most of your time here JIA??

I try to allocate some of my time here. 🙂

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Dear JesusIsAlive

While finding the definition of forum is all well and good, there has, for a long time, been a general consensus that this forum is primarily geared towards debate of a religious nature. Previously this forum was part of the General discussion forum before becoming a stand alone sub forum. Upon it's creation a moderator made this thread, which I believe use to be a sticky.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=320215&highlight=forum+rules+forumid%3A80

In it he specified the following:

This means that a thread started with no purpose other then conversion as it's goal would be considered not in the spirit of the forum - there by rights should be the option for debate is, where you put forth an argument, and somebody replies. You can try to convince them, and you can certainly post your view, but it is not in the spirit of the forum to simply claim you can post your view and there is no reason for you to justify it or engage in debate on the subject. Other forums members have a right to question your claims, and the claims of the Bible, and they are not wrong in expecting, in the spirit of the forum, a reply or counter argument.

Yours Sincerely, Imperial_Samura

In the words of Ace Ventura: well, alrighty then! No, I just don't like the way the word argument sounds; it sounds so divisive and combative. I am not here to get it on with anyone.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
In the words of Ace Ventura: well, alrighty then! No, I just don't like the way the word argument sounds; it sounds so divisive and combative. I am not here to get it on with anyone.

Well we don't have to use words with negative connotations like argument. Far better to be civilised and debate. Instead of counter arguments one rebuts the others sides claims.

Ultimately, despite you assertions you wouldn't do it, you have been debating. You usually do respond to a persons question with a counter/rebuttal. And it is, Ultimately, better for all concerned to enter into civil discussion, you will find you attract more bees with honey then vinegar.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Well we don't have to use words with negative connotations like argument. Far better to be civilised and debate. Instead of counter arguments one rebuts the others sides claims.

Ultimately, despite you assertions you wouldn't do it, you have been debating. You usually do respond to a persons question with a counter/rebuttal. And it is, Ultimately, better for all concerned to enter into civil discussion, you will find you attract more bees with honey then vinegar.

I agree. 🙂

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I try to allocate some of my time here. 🙂

ohh...

I don't really see you anywhere else in kmc but here..

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
ohh...

I don't really see you anywhere else in kmc but here..

I MAY surf the rest of the forums of this site, but my assignment is here.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I MAY surf the rest of the forums of this site, but my assignment is here.

Did someone give you that assignment?

I believe He was resurrected, I further believe that He still lives.

I have to agree with the skeptics in here on one point though. The Bible alone isn't enough proof to be conclusive. It does contain evidence and if you're using proof as a synonym of evidence I suppose that works. The evidence is mainly in the form of second-hand testimony (Luke, Mark), eye-witness testimony (Mathew and John), and witness lists (provided by Paul). It's up to the reader to weigh the evidence. I being LDS also use the Book of Mormon as evidence. According to it Christ visited the people in the Americas after his resurrection (probably after his ascension - it isn't really very specific on the timeline). In addition Joseph Smith claimed to have seen Him. I know that many reject JS as a reliable witness, but I find no fault in his historical honesty.

In the end everyone has to weigh the evidence and decide what they believe by themselves, with perhaps some help from God if they ask.

Originally posted by docb77
I believe He was resurrected, I further believe that He still lives.

I have to agree with the skeptics in here on one point though. The Bible alone isn't enough proof to be conclusive. It does contain evidence and if you're using proof as a synonym of evidence I suppose that works. The evidence is mainly in the form of second-hand testimony (Luke, Mark), eye-witness testimony (Mathew and John), and witness lists (provided by Paul). It's up to the reader to weigh the evidence. I being LDS also use the Book of Mormon as evidence. According to it Christ visited the people in the Americas after his resurrection (probably after his ascension - it isn't really very specific on the timeline). In addition Joseph Smith claimed to have seen Him. I know that many reject JS as a reliable witness, but I find no fault in his historical honesty.

In the end everyone has to weigh the evidence and decide what they believe by themselves, with perhaps some help from God if they ask.

Right, i think that the evidence is not at all in favor of christianity, but then again, it cannot be proven that Jesus did not resurrect despite the laws of science saying its impossible. If you look at it from a non-logical standpoint it could quite possibly ahve happened, on the other hand, from a scientific standpoint its a ludicrous idea. It just comes down to do you accept it or not.

I don't believe. Used to, though, but then I grew up.

Originally posted by gordomuchacho
Right, i think that the evidence is not at all in favor of christianity, but then again, it cannot be proven that Jesus did not resurrect despite the laws of science saying its impossible. If you look at it from a non-logical standpoint it could quite possibly ahve happened, on the other hand, from a scientific standpoint its a ludicrous idea. It just comes down to do you accept it or not.

Even scientifically you have to admit the possibility. It seems impossible to our current understanding and technology. Yet at the same time, some of the things modern medicine and modern technology do today would have seemed impossible a century or 2 ago. If God is in charge I really have no doubt that he'd know more about physics, biology, etc than us. I'd even go so far as to say that it could be his knowledge that makes him God.

Originally posted by docb77
I'd even go so far as to say that it could be his knowledge that makes him God.

thumbup I'll stand with you on that one.

I'd say Jesus rose from the dead and is still alive until now. Basically, i don't think nobody would fake the bible. if anyone tries, he's in big trouble with above. and who would fake a whole book to make everyone believe? it even has some historical evidence in it....

but then , there's dan brown.... >got nothing against him, just don't believe his crap<

but neverthelessm i still believe Jesus rose from the dead...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God says that what is written in His Word IS PROOF. Who are you to dispute with God. This is not a try by the way either.

Originally posted by $noopbert
God didn't write the Bible ignoramus, Man did.

but God made man to write it down...

but then, that's what i believe in..