Let me repost this for some who dont understand.
""Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body," (John 2:19-21).
The phrase "I will raise" is translated from the single Greek word "egeiro." "Egeiro" is the future, active, indicative, 1st person singular. The active voice in Greek designates who is performing the action. In this case, since it is first person, singular ("I"😉, Jesus is saying that He Himself would perform the action of the resurrection. This is precisely what the Greek says".
Re: DO you believe Jesus rose from the dead?
That is what the Bible told us so. This Son then comes back from the dead, defying all known laws of biology and physics and then physically ascends into heaven, thus defying astrophysics as well. I think that it is very likely that there is a sublime spiritual truth that is being conveyed by the New Testament, but as a rational human being I can not make any sense of the story if it must be understood in a crude and literal fashion.
The Four Gospels' accounts of this most crucial event & such a confused and contradictor mess that convincing any unbiased person to doubt it would be easy. At this point the reader is advised to have a Bible ready and to check the references. We will see that the four accounts of the supposed Resurrection differ in nearly every detail.
When did the Resurrection happen? All four Gospels agree that the events described took place early on Sunday,' morning (Matt 28:1, Mk 16:1, Lk 24:1, Jn 20:1).
Next, we asked who went to the tomb? Now the problems begin. Matthew says that the two Marys went to the tomb (Matt 28:1); Mark says that the two Marys and Salome went (Mk 16:1); Luke says that the two Marys, Joanna and some other women went (Lk 24:10); and John says that Mary went alone (Jn 20: 1).Christians claim that the Bible contains no mistakes but surely there are a few mistakes here. They claim that those who wrote the Gospels were inspired by God as they wrote, but apparently not inspired enough to be able to count properly.
Another question, was there an earthquake? Matthew tells us that at that time there was a "great earthquake" (Matt 28:2), but why do the other three Gospels fail to mention it? Surely a great earthquake, especially occurring at such a significant moment, would be hard to forget. It is far more likely that Matthew just made up the story to add drama to his account, in other words he lied.
Lastly about angels, Matthew claims that an angel appeared before the two women, rolled back the stone door and sat upon it (Matt 28:2). He also says that the guards were so frightened that they fainted (Matt 28:4). Mark's story is quite different. He claims that the door had already been removed before the women arrived, so they went into the tomb and saw the angel inside (Mk 16:4-5). And he doesn't mention any guards. Luke's story is even more inventive. He claims that the women went into the tomb and saw not one but two angels (Lk 24:4). Obviously someone is not telling the truth. John claims that Mary went to the tomb alone, saw the tomb open, ran to get the other disciples and when they went into the tomb she waited outside. After everyone went home Mary waited, and as she did two angels appeared to her, and then Jesus appeared although she could not recognize him (Jn 20:12-14). And it is on this garbled 'evidence' that Christianity rests.
Re: DO you believe Jesus rose from the dead?
[QUOTE=6950384]Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
[B]I do!!! I do!!!
Many Infallible (or Unmistakable) Proofs
Acts 1:3
What are these infallible, unmistakable proofs that Jesus used to present Himself alive after His suffering. Well, lets see:
1. The Jews’ custom prevented them from leaving the bodies of those Jews who had been crucified on the cross on the Sabbath because that particular Sabbath was a high day. It was a very important Sabbath because they were preparing to observe the Passover on or during that Sabbath. So the Jews requested for Pilate to authorize his soldiers to break the legs of those Jews who had been crucified so that they would die faster. Then their bodies could be taken away so as not to violate the Sabbath. So the soldiers broke the legs of the other two who had been crucified along with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus they saw that He was already dead--John 19:30-37.
2. Pilate gave Joseph of Arimathea permission to remove Jesus’ (dead) body--not a swooning corpse--from the cross. So Joseph and others bound or wrapped Jesus in strips of linen with the spices, and placed Him in his very own, brand new tomb--Matthew 27:57-61; John 19:38-42
3. Pilate, the Roman governor (Matthew 27:2) granted the request of the chief priests and Pharisees, and commanded the tomb where Jesus’ body had been placed to be made as secure as as they knew how. The tomb was made secure with a seal, which was an official stamp impression on clay. The clay with the seal was placed across the tomb stone (or door) as a tamper device. The seal could not be broken except with legal authorization. There were hefty penalties for breaking a seal without authorization. In addition to the seal that was used to secure the stone covering the tomb, guards were assigned to keep watch over it as well (Matthew 27:62-66, 28:1-15).
4. Jesus appears to the disciples who were on their way to Emmaus--Luke 24:13-35
5. The linen cloths lying by themselves--John 20:5-6
6. The handkerchief that had been around Jesus’ head folded together in a place by itself--John 20:7
7. Jesus was seen first by Mary Magdalene--John 20:14-18
8. Jesus appeared to His disciples--Luke 24:36-53; John 20:19
9. Jesus showed His disciples His hands (wrists), and His side where He had been pierced----Luke 24:36-53; John 20:20
10. Jesus appears to His disciples again after eight days--John 20:26-28
11. Jesus showed Himself to His disciples again (this is the third time) on the shore of the Sea of Galilee (Tiberias)--John 21:1-14
12. Jesus was seen for many days by His apostles--Acts 13:31
13. Jesus is seen by James (His half-brother), by over 500 (Christian) brethren at once, by Paul the apostle, and by Ananias, one of His disciples--1 Corinthians 15:4-8; Acts 9:1-18
Glory to God Jesus is alive! (Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:5-7, 14-20, 26-28, 21:1-14; Mark 16:19; Acts 1:3, 7:55, 9:3-6, 10-17, 13:31,18:9-10, 22:17-18, 23:11, 25:19; Romans 6:4, 9, 7:4, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:4-8, 12, 15; Galatians 1:1; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; 2 Timothy 2:8; Hebrews 7:25, 12:2; 1 Peter 3:18, 22)
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[QUOTE=6950384]Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
[B]I do!!! I do!!!Many Infallible (or Unmistakable) Proofs
Acts 1:3
What are these infallible, unmistakable proofs that Jesus used to present Himself alive after His suffering. Well, lets see:1. The Jews’ custom prevented them from leaving the bodies of those Jews who had been crucified on the cross on the Sabbath because that particular Sabbath was a high day. It was a very important Sabbath because they were preparing to observe the Passover on or during that Sabbath. So the Jews requested for Pilate to authorize his soldiers to break the legs of those Jews who had been crucified so that they would die faster. Then their bodies could be taken away so as not to violate the Sabbath. So the soldiers broke the legs of the other two who had been crucified along with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus they saw that He was already dead--John 19:30-37.
2. Pilate gave Joseph of Arimathea permission to remove Jesus’ (dead) body--not a swooning corpse--from the cross. So Joseph and others bound or wrapped Jesus in strips of linen with the spices, and placed Him in his very own, brand new tomb--Matthew 27:57-61; John 19:38-42
3. Pilate, the Roman governor (Matthew 27:2) granted the request of the chief priests and Pharisees, and commanded the tomb where Jesus’ body had been placed to be made as secure as as they knew how. The tomb was made secure with a seal, which was an official stamp impression on clay. The clay with the seal was placed across the tomb stone (or door) as a tamper device. The seal could not be broken except with legal authorization. There were hefty penalties for breaking a seal without authorization. In addition to the seal that was used to secure the stone covering the tomb, guards were assigned to keep watch over it as well (Matthew 27:62-66, 28:1-15).
4. Jesus appears to the disciples who were on their way to Emmaus--Luke 24:13-35
5. The linen cloths lying by themselves--John 20:5-6
6. The handkerchief that had been around Jesus’ head folded together in a place by itself--John 20:7
7. Jesus was seen first by Mary Magdalene--John 20:14-18
8. Jesus appeared to His disciples--Luke 24:36-53; John 20:19
9. Jesus showed His disciples His hands (wrists), and His side where He had been pierced----Luke 24:36-53; John 20:20
10. Jesus appears to His disciples again after eight days--John 20:26-28
11. Jesus showed Himself to His disciples again (this is the third time) on the shore of the Sea of Galilee (Tiberias)--John 21:1-14
12. Jesus was seen for many days by His apostles--Acts 13:31
13. Jesus is seen by James (His half-brother), by over 500 (Christian) brethren at once, by Paul the apostle, and by Ananias, one of His disciples--1 Corinthians 15:4-8; Acts 9:1-18Glory to God Jesus is alive! (Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:5-7, 14-20, 26-28, 21:1-14; Mark 16:19; Acts 1:3, 7:55, 9:3-6, 10-17, 13:31,18:9-10, 22:17-18, 23:11, 25:19; Romans 6:4, 9, 7:4, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:4-8, 12, 15; Galatians 1:1; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; 2 Timothy 2:8; Hebrews 7:25, 12:2; 1 Peter 3:18, 22)
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No, what is written in the bible is not proof. Nice try though.
But God only said that, according to you, in the Bible.
Basic logic dictates that you cannot use what the Bible says in order to prove that the Bible is proof so that we can use what the Bible says.
Hence, he is not necessarily disputing with God unless you can use an independant, non-bibilical source to probe that the Bible is God's word.
You'll need an argument to do that, so I hope you are interested in arguing this time. And if you are not, accusations like the one you just made against Bardock are a waste of time for all. And also rather judgmental.