Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And I have no problem with you agreeing or disagreeing with me, but don't strawman me by putting words in my mouth.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Wait, so then your agreeing with Jake that Batman knowing more styles =/= him being more skilled?

Ok now I'm just confused

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok. Don't get upset if someone uses your logic against you.
Yeah.

So you made a non-point just to make a non-point? Even though you agree with me?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you made a non-point just to make a non-point? Even though you agree with me?

Originally posted by jalek moye
Ok now I'm just confused

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I just used your logic against your point. This "Batman is flashy and cap isn't" isn't a valid point to make when you can just as easily cite cap using those "flashy moves" as well. Give us the battles which cap has fought against other street levelers and other martial artists to prove who is more skilled.

Okay.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you made a non-point just to make a non-point? Even though you agree with me?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay.

Anyway, Caps showings against people like Iron Fist, Wolverine, Dare Devil, etc show that he's at the very least comparable to Batman in skill regardless of if his own style is as flashy.

They both also have hundreds of showings of them beating physically greater opponents through combat prowess.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Anyway, Caps showings against people like Iron Fist, Wolverine, Dare Devil, etc show that he's at the very least comparable to Batman in skill regardless of if his own style is as flashy.

They both also have hundreds of showings of them beating physically greater opponents through combat prowess.

At the end of the day batman's ALLEGED superiority in skill (very debatable) are not enough to offset Rogers skill and physical superiority.

Batman either has to win fast (difficult at best) or eventually succumb to Rogers who is at the very least close to his skill and who will not tire before batman does.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Despite Cap's physical advantages, Batman turns it up a notch under these circumstances and makes this close. Unfortunately for Batman, Cap also turns it up a notch.

Cap 6/10.

Captain America has better states and overall better showigs vs other MA fighters, Batman white having great showings still getting dominated by the likes of deathstroke and such, and deathstroke is what captain america is

CAP.. batman said soo 😛

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Originally posted by red sabre
Captain America has better states and overall better showigs vs other MA fighters, Batman white having great showings still getting dominated by the likes of deathstroke and such, and deathstroke is what captain america is

Originally posted by namorsubby
This is completely false. The whole slade equals cap argument is hogwash and if you actually compare and are aware of their individual power sets and physicality you'd know that. I've always felt like people never actually take that time to investigate these notions themselves through comics, but they rather just adopt whatever general opinion that is around.

You're right, Cap has better strength feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're right, Cap has better strength feats.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, no. caps not even stronger than batman on panel. Slade has definitely proven he is in their encounters.

Incorrect, Cap has better strength feats than Slade.

Incorrect. More prevalent examples of using brute force as opposed to cunning to solve a problem, sure. But we all know it's quality that matters, not quantity. But like I said, steve hasn't proven hes stronger than bruce, much less slade.

Care to compare? Of course not.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Incorrect. More prevalent examples of using brute force as opposed to cunning to solve a problem, sure. But we all know it's quality that matters, not quantity. But like I said, steve hasn't proven hes stronger than bruce, much less slade.

Care to compare? Of course not.

Feel free, but Cap has the better strength feats.

Feel free? You know when you make a claim that someone in turn disputes, then you provide so called proof so that I can in turn disprove it with actual proof. I doubt you could even conjure up a cap strength feat that I don't have on file myself or have at least seen several times.

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