Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

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Originally posted by Mindset
Prove it.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Quite a few.

And how is Batman more skilled than Steve? All skill is is a combination of reflexes, effectiveness, and knowing how to hit without being hit back. Simply knowing x amount of martial arts doesn't make you more skilled than someone who prefers utilizing a single form, let alone the fact that Steve has been stated, numerous times at that, to have mastered virtually every form of combat known to man.

Batman being a "flashier" fighter than Captain America doesn't make him more skilled.


So cap is a better fighter than karate kid?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So cap is a better fighter than karate kid?

I'll bite, and the only correct response is this one, Steve Rogers will beat any version of Karate Kid that Batman can only a little bit faster and be a little less hurt.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So cap is a better fighter than karate kid?

Did I say that?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So cap is a better fighter than karate kid?

him saying that Knowing more martial arts doesn't = being more skilled, somehow translates to him saying that any conventional martial artist is < Cap?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Did I say that?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Simply knowing x amount of martial arts doesn't make you more skilled than someone who prefers utilizing a single form.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Umm no where does he say that Cap is better because he knows less. He's saying that knowing more doesn't automatically make you more skilled, which is true.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Originally posted by jalek moye
him saying that Knowing more martial arts doesn't = being more skilled, somehow translates to him saying that any conventional martial artist is < Cap?

Originally posted by jalek moye
him saying that Knowing more martial arts doesn't = being more skilled, somehow translates to him saying that any conventional martial artist is < Cap?

Why not? Val may know the every martial art in 31st century but he can't use everyone of them at once, right? What makes him more skilled than cap then if we go by jake's logic?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why not? Val may know the every martial art in 31st century but he can't use everyone of them at once, right? What makes him more skilled than cap then if we go by jake's logic?

To my knowledge Mr X knows more martial arts then both Batman and Cap (along with many other top MAs) but I doubt most people would say he's a more skilled fighter then both of them sans powers.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Umm no where does he say that Cap is better because he knows less. He's saying that knowing more doesn't automatically make you more skilled, which is true.

So how do we measure who is more skilled?

Originally posted by jalek moye
knowledge Mr X knows more martial arts then both Batman and Cap (along with many other top MAs) but I doubt most people would say he's a more skilled fighter then both of them sans powers.

Tell that to wolverine brigade.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why not? Val may know the every martial art in 31st century but he can't use everyone of them at once, right? What makes him more skilled than cap then if we go by jake's logic?

His actual showings, his fights and how he does in them against other high end fighters. Simply knowing a lot of martial arts doesn't mean your a better fighter then everyone else. You think someone saying they know every martial art, and then losing to say Shang Chi makes them greater then Shang Chi still?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Tell that to wolverine brigade.

So you agree with the notion that Mr X is a better fighter then anyone who knows every style in the world and down? In both marvel and DC

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
facepalm

What? I'm just going by your logic. I have no problem in accepting that cap is more skilled than batman IF there are better proofs than "Nah-uh, cap is just more skilled. Deal with it".

Originally posted by jalek moye
His actual showings, his fights and how he does in them against other high end fighters. Simply knowing a lot of martial arts doesn't mean your a better fighter then everyone else. You think someone saying they know every martial art, and then losing to say Shang Chi makes them greater then Shang Chi still?

That's what I'm talking about. You want to prove that someone is more skilled than someone, give his actual records against martial artist, their battles etc.
Originally posted by jalek moye
So you agree with the notion that Mr X is a better fighter then anyone who knows every style in the world and down? In both marvel and DC

Of course not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What? I'm just going by your logic. I have no problem in accepting that cap is more skilled than batman IF there are better proofs than "Nah-uh, cap is just more skilled. Deal with it".

And I have no problem with you agreeing or disagreeing with me, but don't strawman me by putting words in my mouth.

Wait, so then your agreeing with Jake that Batman knowing more styles =/= him being more skilled?