Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by namorsubby
Your deluded. Tell me what kind of truck that is and why the hell it weighs 30,000 lbs. Let me guess, thats the average weight of a "supply truck"? Youre a loon. Btw, people pull semis, some have done it with their junk.lol

Lol you upped the tree feat from 800 to 2 tons after you saw the tomb feat. your even more of a crackpot for that, seeing as theres no way in hell you can kno what the weight of that tree is, or that concrete block.

you are so ignorant you fail to realize how impressive opening a plane door from the outside is. The pressure is immense. But you wouldn't know that.

geez you are dumb and a hypocrite as well

Lol do you know anything about trucks? any truck that can be considered a suply truck is above 15 tons, trucks under 15 tons are not for suply, you can see the truck type in that scan, its the artist who drew it in caps height however those kind of trucks are well above 15 tons but i wasnt too hursh on you and gave it the minimum weight of 15 tons, go learn something about trucks

people pull trucks and semis however thats because they can move it slightly until the wheels are helping them carry the truck itself, the wheels are actually helping those guys to move the truck further as they roll, however cap was doing it in the desert which means the wheels got stuck in the sand and therefor he not only had to drag the entire weight of the truck with no rolling help but he also had to drag it against the extra weight the resisting sand created , comprehend that kido

both me and srank gave you a formula, that tree was above 2 meters and thicker than cap how much do you believe that tree weighted? if you believe a goprilla can weight more than that huge chunk of tree than you are a bozo

wow opening an airplane door Lol, i already adressed that part saying airplanes got aluminium doors which are much easier to bend and tear than any other kind of metal around, and i easily supressed that by showing cap while injured tearing a much bigger, ticker, heavier door than that, also its much easier to kick the door than to actually push against it until the door tear off , and of course then i presented cap ripping a huge statue out of its place and support it with his back which you couldnt asnwer, the silo feat you couldnt answer, the conrete feat, the torpedo feat, the truck feat....

you got demolished you understand? completely demolished , and if you werent such an ass in the first place no one would make such a big deal out of it , but since you were trash talking and acting like that well then serves you right

Originally posted by DTM
In a HTH fight, Cap has virtually all of the advantages, with Batman maybe having a slight skill advantage and brains bonus,

Cap has enhanced intelligence and was hurting people with superhuman durability way back in the 60s or 70s. No way Batman has a skill advantage hes just more showey.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You never even attempt to validate anything you say with evidence. And your statements are down right absurd.

1. Slade is superior to nw and other street level mas. Theres no way you can prove him having trouble with them occurs more then him engaging teams. No cis included. Give me a comparison number or shut up.

2.youre a hypocrite that is doing exactly what youre accusing. You dont post anything. You simply respond with words to anything shown, giving bull shit excuses for why you view what is posted as insufficient.

I'm waiting for you to counter the evidence posted by red sabre before I indulge your fiened (or legitimate?) ignorance.

So far you've posted two "strength feats". One of Slade tossing a 400-600lbs Gorilla, which didn't even stack up to the feat you were attempting to dispute, let alone top it. And the "feat" involving the sarcophagus which you claim weighs on average 3,000lbs... which isn't true on more than one level. First of all the average one doesn't weigh 3,000 pounds, King Tuts three layered sarcophagus weighed 3,000 pounds... but that is not the average weight. Second - and by far more importantly - that is the weight of the entire sarcophagus with all it's layers, including the outer layer giant stone box that houses all the inner coffins! What you posted is the innermost coffin. The innermost coffin that housed King Tut was made of solid gold and only weighed 200lbs... and some of those inner coffins are only made of wood. Congratulations... Slade can flip over a broken 200lbs coffin... look out Captain America!!!! dur

The feats you are posting don't stack up to the ones you are attempting to over shadow... there is no need for me or anyone else to start posting more scans at this moment because you haven't even countered the ones that have already been posted.

Originally posted by red sabre
geez you are dumb and a hypocrite as well

Lol do you know anything about trucks? any truck that can be considered a suply truck is above 15 tons, trucks under 15 tons are not for suply, you can see the truck type in that scan, its the artist who drew it in caps height however those kind of trucks are well above 15 tons but i wasnt too hursh on you and gave it the minimum weight of 15 tons, go learn something about trucks

people pull trucks and semis however thats because they can move it slightly until the wheels are helping them carry the truck itself, the wheels are actually helping those guys to move the truck further as they roll, however cap was doing it in the desert which means the wheels got stuck in the sand and therefor he not only had to drag the entire weight of the truck with no rolling help but he also had to drag it against the extra weight the resisting sand created , comprehend that kido

Don't forget the axel was broken!!! durhulk

Originally posted by Deadline
Don't forget the axel was broken!!! durhulk

Lol it will be an overkill, i dont want to scare the guy too much

Wow. Namorsubby got Creamed.

Captain America isn't physically superior to Batman, much less Deathstroke.

Asking to compare Slade feats to Steve's feats, is like asking to show H/P Doomsday bench-pressing more than Wonderman, eventough Wonderman can never be proven to be stronger than even Superman.

Originally posted by red sabre
Lol it will be an overkill, i dont want to scare the guy too much

Does anyone know how far he had to drag it?

Originally posted by Deadline
Does anyone know how far he had to drag it?

it was stuck i the desert so it imply to us he was raging it across the entire desert

Originally posted by Philosophía
Captain America isn't physically superior to Batman

What feats come to mind?

Srank, you cannot win a feat war without posting a feat. then, afterwards you can't make another sorry excuse for why you never post feats. Like mine not being sufficient enough to top someone elses who actually posted feats. Youre pathetic. you only try to dismiss shown with words, and you never back up those words with any displayed evidence.

As for you red sabre, you cannot dismiss my feats and highly exxagerate yours with completely imaginary estimated weights. There is simply no way in hell you can some random tree in a comic to 2 tons(first it was 800lbs). Nevermind the fact that cap has never been shown to be able yo lift that much. And then you estimate that that truck was 15 tons? Wtf dud you get that from? Please show me. Youre stupid if you think im buying such ridiculous, unfounded numbers.

The only number I face was an average tomb weight. I looked it up at many different sources. 3000 lbs or even more is what they said. Srank is full of shit and of course wishes to discredit it, but I know theres nothing he can show to say otherwise. He never post proof of anything anyway.

You are still highly underestimating the plane doir, so ill go find the exact estimate on just how much pressure keeps those doors closed from the outside.

Why not battlezone each other, Subby and Srank? Don's got the KMC Championship stuff going on, and it would be a great way to settle things in a non-biased format, assuming you wanted to rep either Batman or Slade versus Cap. Since I'm co-hosting/judging the thing, I'm also pretty confident we'd be able to work with either of your schedules if you're busy with school/work/whatever.

Just a suggestion on my part, anyway.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What feats come to mind?

Everyone who says cap is physically superior refuses to show why. Ive posted feats on bruce behalf. Anyone who wishes to compare is more than welcome to

Originally posted by namorsubby
his general physical feats.

Everyone who says cap is physically superior refuses to show why. Ive posted feats on bruce behalf. Anyone who wishes to compare is more than welcome to

In the general sense, I personally don't see or recall anything from Bruce that puts him equal to or greater than Steve. I'm not opposed to being proved wrong or having my mind changed, though, which is why I was looking for specific examples.

And the Cap side has mentioned feats, either through links or mentioning them by name as far as I've seen so far.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What feats come to mind?

Originally posted by Philosophía
What feats come to mind in response to what?

As far as the notion that Batman is physically equal to Captain America goes. I'm legitimately curious if I've glossed over or missed anything substantial from Bruce in terms of strength, endurance, speed, or other physical attributes that would make him a peer or equal to Steve.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As far as the notion that Batman is physically equal to Captain America goes. I'm legitimately curious if I've glossed over or missed anything substantial from Bruce in terms of strength, endurance, speed, or other physical attributes that would make him a peer or equal to Steve.

Which ones are beyond Bruce?

Originally posted by namorsubby
Srank, you cannot win a feat war without posting a feat. then, afterwards you can't make another sorry excuse for why you never post feats. Like mine not being sufficient enough to top someone elses who actually posted feats. Youre pathetic. you only try to dismiss shown with words, and you never back up those words with any displayed evidence.

As for you red sabre, you cannot dismiss my feats and highly exxagerate yours with completely imaginary estimated weights. There is simply no way in hell you can some random tree in a comic to 2 tons(first it was 800lbs). Nevermind the fact that cap has never been shown to be able yo lift that much. And then you estimate that that truck was 15 tons? Wtf dud you get that from? Please show me. Youre stupid if you think im buying such ridiculous, unfounded numbers.

The only number I face was an average tomb weight. I looked it up at many different sources. 3000 lbs or even more is what they said. Srank is full of shit and of course wishes to discredit it, but I know theres nothing he can show to say otherwise. He never post proof of anything anyway.

You are still highly underestimating the plane doir, so ill go find the exact estimate on just how much pressure keeps those doors closed from the outside.

"However, the size (and weight, about 1.36 metric tons or 3,000 pounds) of this coffin suggested that it was only the first of several such nested coffins."

"The golden coffin measures about 1.88 meters in length. The metal was beaten from heavy gold sheet, and varies in thickness from .25 to .3 centimeters. In 1929, it was weighed, tipping the scales at 110.4 kilograms."

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/tutcoffins.htm

The inner sarcophagus, which is what fell on Slade, only weighs a couple hundred pounds. The 3,000lbs is the weight of the entire sarcophagus, which is the two inner coffins and the giant stone box those coffins are placed in.

The funny thing is that this is almost certainly the article you got your initial figures from (1.36 metric tons / 3,000 pounds)... but you got so excited with the numbers you never actually bothered to read the f@cking page and find out what the numbers you were citing actually referred to.

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So far me posting feats has not been necessary. You haven't countered anything red sabre has posted, and the scans you supplied have been abysmal even with you lying through your teeth to hype the impressiveness of said "feats." The one thing I posted you haven't even addressed yet... but you want more? Fine:

That's a 700-800lbs telephone pole, with a 800lbs transformer on it, for total weight of 1,500 - 1,600lbs. Happy now?

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The math used to estimate the weight of the tree has been explained to you several times. Two tons is unlikely, but as I said earlier 800lbs is a very conservative estimate. That tree could easily be 1,600 - 1,800lbs without much trouble. The figure I used to determine the weight of wood per cubic foot was a figure for dried out lumber, not a green wood with moister in it... and that is just adjusting the weight of wood per cubic foot, because the radius number could easily be bumped up as well.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In the general sense, I personally don't see or recall anything from Bruce that puts him equal to or greater than Steve. I'm not opposed to being proved wrong or having my mind changed, though, which is why I was looking for specific examples.

And the Cap side has mentioned feats, either through links or mentioning them by name as far as I've seen so far.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't know the feats you're reffering to of Cap's, so that I'll know what to post from Bruce in order to equal or surpass them.

Which ones are beyond Bruce?

Well, I don't see Bruce lifting giant cement debris over his head and tossing it up toward a sniper position and knocking him out. The tree and telephone pole feats also seem out of range. There's also the fact that Captain America dodges bullets due to actually seeing them faster.