Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by curryman
Batman takes this no-problem.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't agree. Cap, 10/10.

I feel as if I'm getting to truly know you for the first time.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
I feel as if I'm getting to truly know you for the first time.

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That is all I can ask for.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That is all I can ask for.

Objectivity, 10/10.

Like I've always said, no reasonably objective person can think Batman wins this.

Batman wins

Cap wins.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Like I've always said, no reasonably objective person can think Batman wins this.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Batman wins

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Is there a charity I can donate my old issues too so you can start reading comics?

Right here! *raises hand*

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Is there a charity I can donate my old issues too so you can start reading comics?

Batman winning at all is sketchy given he's facing a guy with higher physical stats and incredible skill.

Batman winning with no problem at all doesn't even begin to make sense to me.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman winning at all is sketchy given he's facing a guy with higher physical stats and incredible skill.

Batman winning with no problem at all doesn't even begin to make sense to me.

Have you seen him on form in Batman Inc lately? Beast Mode.

Originally posted by curryman
Have you seen him on form in Batman Inc lately? Beast Mode.

Sure.

Have you seen Cap in Remender's Captain America ongoing, let alone the previous Brubaker runs?

Originally posted by curryman
Have you seen him on form in Batman Inc lately? Beast Mode.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Sure.

Have you seen Cap in Remender's Captain America ongoing, let alone the previous Brubaker runs?

I read Brubaker's run and it was amazing.

I haven't read anything that Remender's done lately outside Uncanny Avengers and Uncanny X-Force.

Batman has shown inhuman endurance as of late too he should have died several times especially when he was being hunted by the Owls while severely wealkened

Originally posted by curryman
I read Brubaker's run and it was amazing.

I haven't read anything that Remender's done lately outside Uncanny Avengers and Uncanny X-Force.

Brubaker basically made it very clear that in comparison to the other peak humans in the Marvel U such as Daredevil and Winter Soldier, Cap is definitively superhuman. Remender seems to be taking that philosophy and pushing Cap more into the realm of Luke Cage physicality than peers such as Batman. Guy recently carved out his own chest and guts to expel Zola's infection inside of his body.

With gadgets and everything else into play, Bats and Cap becomes a lot closer, but with none of that and just their stats and skills, I'm finding it more and more difficult seeing Batman win. Not saying Steve one shots Bruce or just spite stomps him, but the physical gap between them seems to be growing as time passes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
the physical gap between them seems to be growing as time passes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Brubaker basically made it very clear that in comparison to the other peak humans in the Marvel U such as Daredevil and Winter Soldier, Cap is definitively superhuman. Remender seems to be taking that philosophy and pushing Cap more into the realm of Luke Cage physicality than peers such as Batman. Guy recently carved out his own chest and guts to expel Zola's infection inside of his body.

With gadgets and everything else into play, Bats and Cap becomes a lot closer, but with none of that and just their stats and skills, I'm finding it more and more difficult seeing Batman win. Not saying Steve one shots Bruce or just spite stomps him, but the physical gap between them seems to be growing as time passes.

I agree that Cap's pure physical stats go above the other peak humans, though let's not forget that peak human is a stat that's relative to the character. Kingpin's peak human strength and durability is a lot higher than say Daredevil or Elektra's.

I disagree with the idea that Cap's can take more physical pain than Batman. He's stronger but I think Batman is faster and more skilled. Endurance is a wash since Batman moves with such efficiency that he doesn't really expend any energy, again Batman Inc. Cap also, does not tire 🙂

Finally, I think Bruce is much, much, much smarter than Captain America.