Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You think somebody like that is going to state flat out that an opponent is superior to him?

How about you just answer that.

He admitted Captain America could conceivably win. If he thought his opponent was superior he might as well say it. I've seen Batman admit he is inferior when it's clear.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah man of course it was.

This is what Batman said and I quote, "It is conceivable that you could defeat me Avenger..."

Do I need to get you a link to "webster.com" to explain to you the definitions of a particular word or two?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He admitted Captain America could conceivably win. If he thought his opponent was superior he might as well say it. I've seen Batman admit he is inferior when it's clear.

and there are loads of examples of him not admiitng when hes weaker or inferior. So that still doesnt chgange the fact that he could have been implying he was inferior.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

This is what Batman said and I quote, "It is conceivable that you could defeat me Avenger..."

Do I need to get you a link to "webster.com" to explain to you the definitions of a particular word or two?

Again the meaning of that is open to interpretation.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and there are loads of examples of him not admiitng when hes weaker or inferior. So that still doesnt chgange the fact that he could have been implying he was inferior.

Where does it seem like his implying his inferior?

He said he could lose. He didn't say he would. It's possible his inferior and would lose. In that same logic, the same thing can be said about Captain America.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Again the meaning of that is open to interpretation.

So you say.

kurtbusiek
You can interpret it how you like, but my intent was that Batman was noting that Cap is the more skilled.

kdb

http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/...=0&tstart=0

First of all that link is broken.

Second of all, like I told you before it was his opinion, and based on what Batman said on panel, the best you can assume is that Captain America can be superior to Batman, not that he is superior to Batman in Batman's opinion.

I believe Batman is the more skilled one in hand to hand skill, and that he has enough feats to support it with Captain America having the more physical advantages.

It was the opinion of the guy that wrote the scene in question.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all that link is broken.

Second of all, like I told you before it was his opinion, and based on what Batman said on panel, the best you can assume is that Captain America can be superior to Batman, not that he is superior to Batman in Batman's opinion.

I believe Batman is the more skilled one in hand to hand skill, and that he has enough feats to support it with Captain America having the more physical advantages.

Not sure how you can debate this. The writers intent was that Capt was the more skilled. Really no debating what the writer intent was.

really what makes Batman more skilled? The fact he has moves that have stupid names like the leapard blow?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
having moves like leapard blow ect. Capt styles much more basic.

it's not like batman named the moves...jeez😬

Originally posted by Starscream M
god it's posts like this that remind me of what a joke you are...

it's not like batman named the moves...jeez😬

never said he did name them, nor does naming them have anything to do with what I am debating.

You clearly missunderstand what I am saying. Batman, like DD shang-chi ect. Look much more flashy well fighting. It not to say there show boating or anything like that, there moves are simply more apealing to the eye. DD uses of pressure points, shang-chi uses of certain kicks kung-fu based moves ect. They look a lot cooler then a lot of Capt moves, which are a lot more basic in nature. Niether is really more effective then the other there just different.

your comment was unneed and you can go **** your self, and do not pm me ever again, I am done with your nonsenses

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where does it seem like his implying his inferior?

He said he could lose. He didn't say he would. It's possible his inferior and would lose. In that same logic, the same thing can be said about Captain America.

Rage if you have a character who has shown to be too proud to admit weakness and inferiority do you think that one interpretation of that scene is that Batman is admitting hes weaker but in a veiled form?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all that link is broken.

It is, because the site was pruned but if you want we could possibly show you a thread were another poster saw nd was discussing it, so you know where not making shit up.

The sad part is, I've been posting that quote on here for over 3 years and yet people are still arguing that the writer didn't intend for Batman to be admitting that Cap was more skilled.

They would be much better served arguing that it was a crossover and thus doesn't count.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The sad part is, I've been posting that quote on here for over 3 years and yet people are still arguing that the writer didn't intend for Batman to be admitting that Cap was more skilled.

LOL didnt even finish my post...anyway im not having it if people want to argue against that they are in denial.

Originally posted by Silent Master

They would be much better served arguing that it was a crossover and thus doesn't count.

Yeah, but theres proof its canon.

The quote doesent prove that Capt is more skilled. However it does prove that the writer believes Capt is more skilled and helps to prove capt =/> Batman in skill however it not the end all be all.

Not that anyone is saying that in the least, I just pointing out my thoughts on the matter.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
how the hell did that make me a joke?

Originally posted by Starscream M
becaues you assumed knowing leopard blow makes you flashy when it couldn't be farther from the truth. leopard blow is not meant to be flashy at all.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
also that it in self is flashy giving a name to an attack. C

FINAL JUSTICE!

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, I suppose that was batman's fault...for learning a move that already had a name. 🙄

Not saying it his fault or a bad thing. You are being far to defensive about the term flashy. Just becuases something is flashy does not make it less effective then more basic attacks or more effective.

For example Faber the ex bantum weight champ made his name from flashy finishes.

Not saying it a bad thing to be flashy, look at shang-chi and IF for example. Both are flashy combatants, but both extremly effective. Just becuases I say Batman is flashy is not the say that becuases Capt is more basic he better. I am saying that just becuases Batman moves make him seem more impressive and apealing compared to Capt style it does not make him more effective or skilled.

which you repeatedly keep missing.

Im not being defensive...just pointing out that batman is not flashy

his whole intent is to be practical...not flashy

the leopard blow is not a flashy move...nor is the name that flashy

batman wears dark grimey colors while cap wears bright colors...who you think is more flashy?

Originally posted by Starscream M
Im not being defensive...just pointing out that batman is not flashy

his whole intent is to be practical...not flashy

the leopard blow is not a flashy move...nor is the name that flashy

batman wears dark grimey colors while cap wears bright colors...who you think is more flashy?

actaully his hole intent is to be impressive, scarey a symbol.

any attack with a name is pritty flashy, never saw the point of naming attacks lol.

Flashy in the senses of there apearences not in the style of fighting.

Capt was trained by military. Military type combat styles taught are very basic attacks that are rather less then apealing. Judo, Boxing ect styles that are the foundation of Capt fighting style are very basic styles nothing real flashy about any of there attacks.

Batman uses a lot of tikwendo, kung-fu ect type of style when he fights. There a lot more kicking and flashy Manuavers. It doesent make him anyless effective however the style is a lot more flashy and apealing compared with Captain America very basic approach. Extremely easy to see the differences when comparing the two.