Thanos vs superman with a twist

Originally posted by slade10
Who said anything about his girl? I said he was weakened and moping after losing the infinity gauntlet. Is that so hard to see? "an infinity to ponder my follies and sins." I'm sure he means that literally, right?

Have you ever been sick? Multiply that by infinity, and you know the shape thanos is in after losing the ULTIMATE POWER of the universe.

Thanos has been shown fighting in vacuums and planet-destroying fights multiple times (without tech). He has cosmic energy blasts that have leveled galactus. There is zero doubt he can use cosmic energy for propulsion. This is not that hard to see, just as it's not that hard to see that he could boil water with his cosmic energy (though of course that too is not shown regularly -- I guess he'd need a bunson burner?).

Moving through space unassisted is a paltry feat for anyone who wields cosmic energy. It's like asking if an olympic sprinter "could swim " -- I've never seen Maurice Greene swim, so he must not be able to, right? Marvel rates thanos a 7 (warp speed) in its own power ratings, and anyone who can move that fast can escape the gravitational pull of a sun.

These threads are ridiculous. I have a feeling that one, or a few guys (under different aliases), are here trying to create superman hate by pitting him up against impossible odds, then making fanatical, nonsensical arguments (a million sun-dipped punches! ability to absorb galaxies exploding! cosmic energy projection!) aobut how he would win.

Just look at the comics. Thanos fights and does well against entities superman would be a bug too. He crushes enemies that would beat superman easily in 1on1 battles. Superman, on the other hand, loses while sundipped to a very strong version of iceman.

This is not that hard people. If you have to resort to odd logic or repeated, strange contradictions in comic stories, then you're making up new characters. If a group of marvel and dc writers got into a room and discussed it, I have no doubt they would all agree that thanos would win, absent some strange plot device.

That's ultimately what matters. Not people's weird obsession with irrelevant powers (speed, flight, reflexes, etc).

What are you talking about?
Supes has fought and beaten enemies that could handle Thanos with ease as well. Just from that line "loses while sundipped to a very strong version of iceman." I already know that you don't know what you are talking about.. he wasn't sundipped there, and under normal circumstance, Cythonna would beat the living daylights out of Thanos as well.

So far, all we are seeing are speculations, and talks about Thanos feelings. Once again, just show good solid proof. Period.

He was losing to her while sundipped. She wrapped herself around him and was killing him until lois showed up. Do you have the scans? post them.

She tries to kill people by encasing them in ice. And she was being weakened by the heat and gravitational pull of earth's single, small sun, and was ultimately trapped by it. She's not even close to thanos in power. Thanos took galactus to the floor and has cosmic blasts more powerful than galactus' heralds (who have been shown destroying stars).

Losing decisively to her is evidence that superman can beat thanos while sun-dipped? THat's just crazy.

Compare her to Inbetweener & Mephisto & Walker

I vote for Thanos.

Originally posted by slade10
He was losing to her while sundipped. She wrapped herself around him and was killing him until lois showed up. Do you have the scans? post them.

She tries to kill people by encasing them in ice. And she was being weakened by the heat and gravitational pull of earth's single, small sun, and was ultimately trapped by it. She's not even close to thanos in power. Thanos took galactus to the floor and has cosmic blasts more powerful than galactus' heralds (who have been shown destroying stars).

Losing decisively to her is evidence that superman can beat thanos while sun-dipped? THat's just crazy.

superman is strronger faster thanos

Originally posted by slade10
He was losing to her while sundipped. She wrapped herself around him and was killing him until lois showed up. Do you have the scans? post them.

She tries to kill people by encasing them in ice. And she was being weakened by the heat and gravitational pull of earth's single, small sun, and was ultimately trapped by it. She's not even close to thanos in power. Thanos took galactus to the floor and has cosmic blasts more powerful than galactus' heralds (who have been shown destroying stars).

Losing decisively to her is evidence that superman can beat thanos while sun-dipped? THat's just crazy.

Do you even know what Sundipped is?
It's obvious you don't just from your reply.

She's an Ice goddess who is weakened by the Sun(RAO), and even on the surface of the sun she was still stronger than a standard Supes.

Sundipping wasn't even invented yet, and wouldn't be for a couple of years.

If you have a scan of a herald "destroying" a star under their own power, please show it. We'd all like to see.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The characters are different, the situation is the same.
By his own words, he was HELPLESS. There aren't any excuses there.
Sorry.

Ehh....what??? You do know that you're logic is downright flawed don't you? Different characters as in one is Godly and one could only rely on tech and such.

And for "helpless". It's really existed all that while on that issue. His costume is in tact which means he has his belt teleporter. How can that be helpless?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Ehh....what??? You do know that you're logic is downright flawed don't you? Different characters as in one is Godly and one could only rely on tech and such.

And for "helpless". It's really existed all that while on that issue. His costume is in tact which means he has his belt teleporter. How can that be helpless?

Simple. He says so himself...and we KNOW Thanos is a smart/proud guy. 🙂
If he says he's helpless, I'm inclined to believe it.

As for logic, it should dictate showing good solid proof of said abilities, of where there is none.

For example, you just said he had his belt teleporter, I've compared it to Luthors teleporter...both characters rely on intelligence and tech. Not hard logic to comprehend is it?
Nobody was comparing Thanos physiology with Luthors.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Simple. He says so himself...and we KNOW Thanos is a smart/proud guy. 🙂
If he says he's helpless, I'm inclined to believe it.

As for logic, it should dictate showing good solid proof of said abilities, of where there is none.

For example, you just said he had his belt teleporter, I've compared it to Luthors teleporter...both characters rely on intelligence and tech. Not hard logic to comprehend is it?
Nobody was comparing Thanos physiology with Luthors.

Like someone saying the ten eyed man was the most dangerous thing ever. Guess who said that, and i doubt it if he can be called stupid in any case. I take that as a mere PIS moment.

I said the belt teleporter more on proving the point the "helpless" is nothing but momentary plothole and nothing more. If he had the belt teleporter, he could've gone somewhere else but instead he allows himself to mourn and grieve in space.

That doesn't mean he can't teleport by himself cause he did so in his future appearances after that.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Like someone saying the ten eyed man was the most dangerous thing ever. Guess who said that, and i doubt it if he can be called stupid in any case. I take that as a mere PIS moment.

I said the belt teleporter more on proving the point the "helpless" is nothing but momentary plothole and nothing more. If he had the belt teleporter, he could've gone somewhere else but instead he allows himself to mourn and grieve in space.

That doesn't mean he can't teleport by himself cause he did so in his future appearances after that.

So show it. Without tech.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So show it. Without tech.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Do you even know what Sundipped is?
It's obvious you don't just from your reply.

She's an Ice goddess who is weakened by the Sun(RAO), and even on the surface of the sun she was still stronger than a standard Supes.

Sundipping wasn't even invented yet, and wouldn't be for a couple of years.

If you have a scan of a herald "destroying" a star under their own power, please show it. We'd all like to see.

Does it really matter? even if we show it, you'll deny it in your next comment. You've made multiple manifestly false statements...

Here is nova, by far the weakest of the heralds, destroying a star:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_18.jpg

If cythonna had anythign close to that ability, it would have been simple to blow up the sun, or blow up earth for that matter. She obviously didn't have too much concern for its inhabitants.

Instead, she got pulled in by the sun's gravity and trapped in its core.

And quit changing your position. In the first page, you're arguing that the cythonna fight is proof that superman could beat thanos on the sun. Now you're arguing that "sun-dipping had not been invented", as if until a few years ago superman were powered by oreos rather than solar energy.

PS Thanos has shown FAR MORE POWER than nova. Flooring galactus or tyrant with cosmic energy, accidentally destroying a planet in a fistfight, etc. Nova is like a kid to surfer, and a paramecium to thanos.

The same would be true of superman, in a coffee house, at a strip club, in a movie theater, or on the sun -- thanos still thrashes him. They are in wholly different leagues of power. Superman needs help pulling earth's moon, and in a vacuum no less.... (very impressive by normal superhero standards of course -- not very impressive in a battle with skyfather+ level opponents)

Originally posted by slade10
Does it really matter? even if we show it, you'll deny it in your next comment. You've made multiple manifestly false statements...

Here is nova, by far the weakest of the heralds, destroying a star:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_18.jpg

If cythonna had anythign close to that ability, it would have been simple to blow up the sun, or blow up earth for that matter. She obviously didn't have too much concern for its inhabitants.

Instead, she got pulled in by the sun's gravity and trapped in its core.

And quit changing your position. In the first page, you're arguing that the cythonna fight is proof that superman could beat thanos on the sun. Now you're arguing that "sun-dipping had not been invented", as if until a few years ago superman were powered by oreos rather than solar energy.

Don't get mad because you don't know what you are talking about.

Superman has ALWAYS gotten more powerful on his proximity to the sun.
However, A Sundipped Superman doesn't even look the same anymore. He easily took blasts from an imperiex powered Braniac. The same being that was untouchable to everyone else (Darkseid included)...hell, Steel in imperiex armor weren't even enough to break the tendrils, and he was still leagues
above Thanos in ability. Who broke them like butter? Sundipped Supes.

When he fought Cythonna, he was fighting on the surface of the sun, which of course, powered him up, but Rao(the sun) being her weakness as an ICE goddess, it weakened her. Totally different levels of power.

Don't look for inconsistencies that aren't there. On the sun, without tech, thanos is getting beat.

I wouldn't say that Steel's imperiex armor is way above Thanos. It's just an Imperiex probe.

Couldn't Thanos absorb sunlight to become more powerful as well? Or possibly even destroy the sun?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Simple. He says so himself...and we KNOW Thanos is a smart/proud guy. 🙂
If he says he's helpless, I'm inclined to believe it.

As for logic, it should dictate showing good solid proof of said abilities, of where there is none.

For example, you just said he had his belt teleporter, I've compared it to Luthors teleporter...both characters rely on intelligence and tech. Not hard logic to comprehend is it?
Nobody was comparing Thanos physiology with Luthors.

Originally posted by slade10
PS Thanos has shown FAR MORE POWER than nova. Flooring galactus or tyrant with cosmic energy, accidentally destroying a planet in a fistfight, etc. Nova is like a kid to surfer, and a paramecium to thanos.

The same would be true of superman, in a coffee house, at a strip club, in a movie theater, or on the sun -- thanos still thrashes him. They are in wholly different leagues of power. Superman needs help pulling earth's moon, and in a vacuum no less.... (very impressive by normal superhero standards of course -- not very impressive in a battle with skyfather+ level opponents)

You are joking right?

The same guy who wrestles head angels, absorbs GOD DESTROYING warheads, moves millions of times faster, flies through moons and destroys them on his own (no help from someone else needed in a battle) and flies out of double black holes under his own power isn't a match? The same guy who beat a being powerful enough to take down a being similar to eternity under his own power?

Oh, that this was before Sundipping. Once sundipped, chances are even bleaker for old Thanos.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I wouldn't say that Steel's imperiex armor is way above Thanos. It's just an Imperiex probe.

Couldn't Thanos absorb sunlight to become more powerful as well? Or possibly even destroy the sun?

Originally it was, Darkseid modified it to harbor the original imperiex power in addition to adding apokolips tech to it. The armor was powerful enough to turn Doomsday into slag with a gesture. We all know how ridiculous DD is. Neither Supes or Thanos would be capable of such a feat at their current powerset.

The armor itself shrugged off the omega effect amplified by the whole amazon patheons magic, in addition to a future braniac planet powered time displacement beam that tossed every other molecule into the future.

Hope that clears things up for you buddy. That armor was a beast.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged

Once again, this proves nothing.
It still isn't any different than the Luthor scan showed.

Is there anything that says Thanos can teleport under his own power?