Wow, are you a hypocrite or what?
Calvin14: You made a spelling error! I am going to make fun of you for it, and ignore your post!
Ganner Rhysode: Oh, that wasn't very nice of you.
Calvin14: Well, it bugged me.
Ganner Rhysode: Oh, okay. Well here, I'll make fun of one of your spelling errors.
Calvin14: Wow, you make no sense, wtf. Do you know what logic MEANS?
Oh, the irony...
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Wow, are you a hypocrite or what?Calvin14: You made a spelling error! I am going to make fun of you for it, and ignore your post!
Ganner Rhysode: Oh, that wasn't very nice of you.
Calvin14: Well, it bugged me.
Ganner Rhysode: Oh, okay. Well here, I'll make fun of one of your spelling errors.
Calvin14: Wow, you make no sense, wtf. Do you know what logic MEANS?Oh, the irony...
Originally posted by calvin44
Your lack of proper logic agitates me.
Okay.
You say "x" to me, to mock me.
I respond with a mockery based off of the same logic "x" was, that is, a spelling error.
You tell me my logic makes no sense.
I tell you that not being able to see how obvious my logic is makes you dumb.
Want me to spell it out any further for you?
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Er, sorry, you're actually wrong. In the game, they even say they're the Jedi Council. Your character can say, "I thought the Jedi Council was on Courscant," and then they tell you about how this is merely a lower division of the council.Also, Nihilus isn't exactly your most typical Sith. He didn't go down and do battle with all of the Jedi on Katarr, but rather fought them from space using his warped, really weird power. There's no way of telling who would have won in an actual saber duel.
Lets examine the evidence shall we?
Bastila said some of the most powerful masters of the order would be there, honestly why would the most powerful people in the Jedi Order be on Dantooine?
Vrook was on the high council, we see this in Kotor II.
When Vrook said something and Vandar disagreed he simply said so and Vrook changed his tune. Implying very simply that they are at least equals and possibly that Vandar is higher in command then Vrook.
Several of the people including Vandar say they trained Revan on Coruscant only one admits to not doing that.
Now going on about this, why in heavens name would the highest council of Jedi send less powerful and less important Jedi to train the only hope they have for the second time, when its clear that they couldn't do it right the first time?
And who would start training Revan on Coruscant, where he could find a lot of memorry's from his old life, and where he would very likely be recognized by other Jedi and normal people. On Dantooine a relatively small place that could be avoided. Not to mention that Coruscant is a place of constant corruption evil murder and crime, with a lot of bad guys and good guys, its not a good idea to put Revan in such a place. Dantooine however is according to Bastila a place that resembles all that Jedi need and could want.
Most logical conclusion: The High Council Jedi Members went to Dantooine to train Revan there, because they could train him best and Coruscant was not a good place to be. Telling him that however would be stupid, so instaed they decided to play weaker council members.
Still no evidence that even hints of Vandar being the absolute highest in the Order, like Yoda was.
"Bastila said some of the most powerful masters of the order would be there, honestly why would the most powerful people in the Jedi Order be on Dantooine?"
The Jedi Council on Coruscant has what? 12 people? Surely the 20th-30th most powerful Jedi alive would be considered "one of the most powerful".
Vrook could have simply been promoted during the 5 years.
"When Vrook said something and Vandar disagreed he simply said so and Vrook changed his tune. Implying very simply that they are at least equals and possibly that Vandar is higher in command then Vrook."
There were times when Vrook made Vandar shutup as well. In fact I wished he would sooner. Nearly ruined the SPOILER for me.
"Now going on about this, why in heavens name would the highest council of Jedi send less powerful and less important Jedi to train the only hope they have for the second time, when its clear that they couldn't do it right the first time?"
That's a good point. But the only one doing any real training was Zhar. The others were just standing there and making me do little errands.
My question is: Did they know the (main character) was coming to Dantooine to become a Jedi? As far as I know, they only went to Dantooine because it was kinda close to Taris.
The Jedi Council on Coruscant has what? 12 people? Surely the 20th-30th most powerful Jedi alive would be considered "one of the most powerful".
True..
Vrook could have simply been promoted during the 5 years.
The exile was exiled before the events of Kotor, meaning Vrook would have become lower in rank.
There were times when Vrook made Vandar shutup as well. In fact I wished he would sooner. Nearly ruined the SPOILER for me.
I know there were, but if one was on the high council and the other was not then that would not have happened.
That's a good point. But the only one doing any real training was Zhar. The others were just standing there and making me do little errands.
Well they talked to you and said things and did some stuff, you were only there for a few weeks and of course the game could not show all of it to you... But they were there to help Zhar train at the very least.
And of course it is possible that they did not know they were going to Dantooine but that seems highly unlikely if you ask me. I mean the Jedi Council must have had something planned to bring Revan back into training, they must have decided where that was going to happen and when before they even send Bastila away with Revan.
Also don't forget that Bastila said she needed to go to Dantooine as it was the best location to go, when she had most likely never been there before or at least not for very long, this is evident in the fact that Juhani her girlfriend doesn't know Bastila at all except for story's.
Also the decision on Revan was made by the Dantooine council, most notibly Vandar and Vrook. No council but the high council should be allowed to make decisions like that. Which again makes me believe that they were members of the high council.
At the end of Kotor, Vandar leads the Jedi attack on the Star Forge, why would a council member of an outside council like Dantooine do that? Why not a member of the Jedi High Council.
In Kotor II, Vandar is also described as a member of the high council. And they seem to care a lot about him, he was famous enough to be mentioned as one of the greatest losses at Katarr, a member of the Dantooine council would not have had that honour.
Also because Vandar lead the attack on the Star Forge, we can kinda assume that he for some reason was chosen to do so above Kavar. There could be a million reasons but the most likely is that he was higher in the Jedi Order and therefor was more suited to lead the attack.