I kinda gotta say ya both do. Marvel has unreasonably powerful heroes, but they don't have all the advantages like some DC heroes, barring SS.
Superman is a super genius, can hit hard enough to crack a small moon in half, and can fly in MULTIPLES of light......Flash can do the million imp thing, and is even faster than Superman, and can speed read as well, just not retain. Jonn' is a Superman level character who some say is >> Xavier. WonderWoman can call on the GodWave(power of all Pantheons, etc) in seconds and is in Supermans class as well. Batman is a genius and expert in whatever the situation calls for. Then you take into account all the versions of Superman and DC starts looking kinda silly. Thor is outrageously powerful, but isn't a genius, just average intelligence. Can't fly faster than light without the hammer. Can't probably speedblitz. Isn't as strong as Clark, though in the same class surely. Not as durable as Clark, either. Silver Surfer is overpowered, but not many characters in Marvel can that be said of. DC?? Not so much. Scarlett Witch has to manage probabilities and all, and doesn't think superfast like many DC heroes seem to be able to.
Dr.Strange is only as powerful as the entities he invokes. Period.
Dr.Fate has mind controlled a galaxy......A GALAXY!!! Nuff said. I still don't understand how with his Superbrain speed, Superman can't anticipate problems and act accordingly. DC has to dumb down its top tier more than any other company. Because they made them kinda foolishly. And don't get me started on Captain Atom. The guy has universe creating power, yet he can't beat Superman??? DC is way backwards. Marvel is powerful, but can't compare to the silliness that is DC Comics.
Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Cpt Marvel
Superman
Plastic Man
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Darkseid
Superman BLue
Superman Orange
Superman Pre-Crisis
Superman Prime
Superman 1 million
Superman etcccdo shut the **** up
Superman ORANGE?! 😆
Terrax
Firelord
Sersi
Blackbolt
Galactus
King Thor
Odin
Nova
Phoenix
Phoenix II
Franklin Richards
Molecule Man
Nice try, sweetie. 🤣
Dc gods and Marvel gods are equal plain and simple they are written differently, but elder gods marvel has the most powerful one in Atum The God-Eater/Demogorge. Marvel Odin caused shock waves threw out the multi-universe in his battles. Zuras a prime eternal fought a sky father Zeus to a stalemate and he was only at half-strength. Chronus zuras father the most powerful eternal is on elder god status's in terms of power, Atume The Gode-eater/Demogorge is above all elder gods and sky-fathers in pure power/abilities. Atum The God-Eater/Demogorge kills elder gods for lunch, dinner, brekfest no gods wants to f**k with him, he absorbs their powers and knownledge and he turns into domegoroge who fought set for years before set decide to give because he was getting weaker as for Atum was getting stronger. Then you have cyttorak who is a demon god and just as powerful as any sky-father, the Dark Gods Asgardian counter parts.
Now back to the thread. Celestials would kill every single god, super hero, with one blast a peice. Extiar alone will destroy Dc earth if he wanted to only two things that can beat the Celestials, one is The Spectre/ Jim Corrigan will eat them alive palin and simple he is the most powerful version of the Spectre as for a human host he used 100% of the Spectres powers. And two is the godwave other than that without those two things DC earth is dead as door nail.
Originally posted by Mider
right darkone once again your opinions no proof as usual just like you dont have anything to back up that the dc and MU pantheons are on the same level which there not.
Where is hyour proof? as usual you don't know 🤨 you are talking about. Name one god on Dc earth that an beat a Celestial? or name some one who can beat besides specter Exitar the most powerful Celestial?
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Care to name them? Abstracts? who? And being the hand of God with the power you described, how did he disposed of them? A being who holds all of creation and right hand of God like you described surely could kill them all within a blink of an eye, can't he.
Just to name a couple, but there's tons more.
And often enough, just like he does with Koth Shugoth in Year One, he erased from time with a flash of light.
Or Parallax/Spectre from volume 4, he defeated by... hold on, I'll get the quotes for you.
"I really have to thank you Parallax for sending me into the void, to a place that exists beyind the threshhold of our conscious limitations. Because by becoming ONE with the void, I was able to begin to at least understand what my friend Abin Sur suggested: To transcend my limited view of myself. Break the constraints of individual identity. I've been so many different beings down through history. Lived so many millions of lifetimes. With so many more yet to come. But beyond all that. I'm a spirit. And beyond that... I'm connected to The Logoz that God merged me with. To the oversoul itself.To the divine presence that contains and surpasses everyone and everything in creation. Viewed from that perspective... You're just one small aspect of one small incarnation. Just a minor drifting thought in the Sea of Eternity. Which means you don't really amount to much, .. do you?"
And then defeats him with a flash of light, and narrates
"So Parallax was absorbed... not into me.. but into all that is."
If you're wanting a history lesson on Spectre, this isn't really the way to go about it. You could always just PM me.
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Originally posted by Juntai
Eh, just to name a few he's defeated...
Koth Shugoth.
Monsieur Stigmonus.
Shathan.
Anti-Monitor.
Parallax/Hal.
Parallax again his own series.
Nabu The Lord of Order, in Spectre issue 14, volume 3..
Nabu again as he elimated all of The Lords of Order and Chaos in Day of Vengeance.
In Day of Judgement he conquered hell with a thought, including the Lords of Hell, then opened a gate to Earth for the demons to flood through, and shut off the powers of all of the Pantheons, including the Quintessence[Highfather, Zues, Ganthet, Phantom Stranger, Shazam.] again with a thought, and told them he wanted no intereference.
In Spectre volume 2 issue 8, he defeated Norse God Odin, [though the comic called him Wotan, Odin's German name,] -- in Volume 2, just for note, Spectre was severely depowered and his mission changed, a punishment for Corrigan for being unable to completely prevent the Crisis on Infinite Earths, something God felt was easily in his capabilities to do, ultimately it was Corrigan's choice of inaction until the final moments of the Crisis that led to this. [Once again showing that it's the host deciding to act or not.]
In Volume 3 issue 18 he defeats Eclipso, the former holder of his position -- Wrath of God.Just to name a couple, but there's tons more.
And often enough, just like he does with Koth Shugoth in Year One, he erased from time with a flash of light.
Or Parallax/Spectre from volume 4, he defeated by... hold on, I'll get the quotes for you."I really have to thank you Parallax for sending me into the void, to a place that exists beyind the threshhold of our conscious limitations. Because by becoming ONE with the void, I was able to begin to at least understand what my friend Abin Sur suggested: To transcend my limited view of myself. Break the constraints of individual identity. I've been so many different beings down through history. Lived so many millions of lifetimes. With so many more yet to come. But beyond all that. I'm a spirit. And beyond that... I'm connected to The Logoz that God merged me with. To the oversoul itself.To the divine presence that contains and surpasses everyone and everything in creation. Viewed from that perspective... You're just one small aspect of one small incarnation. Just a minor drifting thought in the Sea of Eternity. Which means you don't really amount to much, .. do you?"
And then defeats him with a flash of light, and narrates
"So Parallax was absorbed... not into me.. but into all that is."If you're wanting a history lesson on Spectre, this isn't really the way to go about it. You could always just PM me.
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Dude calm down, you don't need to prove anything. You and I haven't agreed on alot of things but this one you are right. Spectre will rip them apart and leave them for dead. Bring back Jim Corriagan the O.G Spectre the Celestials would get sent to hell in a hand basket.
Most people believe that LT and Spectre are equal. The only difference is that the spectre has more of day to day influence in the universe he will get involve unlike LT who is more like gate keeper, Spectre will appear when things get out of hand or somebody deserve judgment or wrath of god. The Spectre has to many damn feats to think that Celestials will f**k with him, please the Spectre farts they all die.
With the spectre earth survives or he sends them back into their own reality. Without him they are dead as road kill on the highway.
Originally posted by Juntai
Eh, just to name a few he's defeated...Koth Shugoth.
Look and observe when did he act that could justify his supposed power. The Celestials are by far faster in dealing destruction than DC's Shuma Gorath's/lovecraft ripoff. Fate even almost had to beg him to just act and the entity gave him a damn hard time before he deemed it's really worthy for his wrath.
Monsieur Stigmonus.
That evil spirit spectre v4 #6. That's supposed to be impressive? guy doesn't even exists in the physical world.
Shathan.
You mean the same shathan who spectre failed to defeat during a russian atomic blast?
Anti-Monitor.
And of course, was he able to alleviate to concequences of Anti-monitor's action nor prevent the them in the first place.
Parallax/Hal.
The fight was close, it's ridiculous to be basing it as a high end feat considering Spectre is part of the godhead.
Parallax again his own series.
Massively depowered
Nabu The Lord of Order, in Spectre issue 14, volume 3..
That's probably the only good feat I can think off. Then again, not on par with the threat here and certainly, earth wasn't at stake as a whole.
Nabu again as he elimated all of The Lords of Order and Chaos in Day of Vengeance.
Same as the above.
In Spectre volume 2 issue 8, he defeated Norse God Odin, [though the comic called him Wotan, Odin's German name,] -- in Volume 2, just for note, Spectre was severely depowered and his mission changed, a punishment for Corrigan for being unable to completely prevent the Crisis on Infinite Earths, something God felt was easily in his capabilities to do, ultimately it was Corrigan's choice of inaction until the final moments of the Crisis that led to this. [Once again showing that it's the host deciding to act or not.]
A pantheon skyfather. Might i remind you that celestials eat them for breakfast and certainly not just one of them.
In Volume 3 issue 18 he defeats Eclipso, the former holder of his position -- Wrath of God.
The same eclipso who claims to be the equal of Darkseid in power. And what is darkseid compared to the entire 4th host of the celestials?
ummm so what now the celestials are greater then all magic? Spectre also erased Darkseid the same one who can servive a blast that can destroy a solar system im so sure a celestial can do that and im so sure they can mind controll an entire galaxy like fate did and split the earth in two or remake the universe righttt thats why they were owned by the IG cause they had the power to reform the universe like spectre does the lords of order and chaos are not to be taken lightly either, spectre not only has recreated the universe by done it twice, he has defeated fifth dimension imps who would eat the celestials for breakfest and how can the DC gods fight the celestials in comics ummm THERE DC NOT MU.
Originally posted by Mider
ummm so what now the celestials are greater then all magic? Spectre also erased Darkseid the same one who can servive a blast that can destroy a solar system im so sure a celestial can do that and im so sure they can mind controll an entire galaxy like fate did and split the earth in two or remake the universe righttt thats why they were owned by the IG cause they had the power to reform the universe like spectre does the lords of order and chaos are not to be taken lightly either, spectre not only has recreated the universe by done it twice, he has defeated fifth dimension imps who would eat the celestials for breakfest and how can the DC gods fight the celestials in comics ummm THERE DC NOT MU.
you're trying to put words in my mouth mider.
never said they were greater than all of magic nor implied it. Keep in mind Spectre as normally portrayed that way would never act like that. DOV Spectre happened cause 1)because of what happened with Shazam/CM/possessed Supes 2)he doesn't have a host and unstable 3) tricked by Jean loring/female Eclipso making it seems that metas earned the wrath and therefore his A-game. He has never acted that way before. And neither did he abused his connection with magic and exploited it when crisis and conflict hits DC. Now I know that doesn't mean that he can't go all out and the arena rules states he should be, but CIS on his part along with the restrictions imposed on his characters nature doesn't really allow him to do so until after said even happen(then he could fix thigs up but by then, the damage has been done and there has been indication that he can only do so to the extent of which these rules apply)
And as for your Darkseid comment, here's the pics. Judge it for yourself so you'd know what i'm talking about. keep in mind this is apokalips and due to it's evil nature, Spectre most likely took off the kiddy gloves.......and still expressed pain when OE hits him. Erased? Built him himself?
(jimmy-san's scans from Cx btw)
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd7b508jpgorig7uu.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spectre0wf.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spectre13bv.jpg
http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseidregen5gj.jpg
oh and here's proof that he was and why, corrupted. Something I don't think a celestial's prescence could inflict upon him considering they are never really evil.
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spectre36vd.jpg
now for your comment on the Imps being defeated by Spectre. He only affected them AFAIK during DOV when that siphoning all magic caused imbalanced. And yes, he could conceivably take them but that would only be possible if he again gets his pl high enough that it beyond what he's normally portrayed with. Also, the range of the celestials powers are a great mystery even now. All we know is that they are in fact more than capable on destroying Earth like a bad habit.
Originally posted by Mordum
^which issue was it that the spectre met the mips or shot them or which ever it was?thanks 😄
Haven't really seen one but i could check. Probably Juntai, the fella i'm arguing here knows an occassion.
But as for his actions effect on the imps, Adventures of Superman #646: where Mr. MXYXYXYXYXSHHidngidfidiWTF was shown to be the pathetic little man that he is .......w/o his powers of course.
