Spider-man. Chun-li is good and his kicks would shred almost any street leveller from other universe to pieces, however Spider-man trumps him in mobility, strength, hitting power, pre-cog, range(well dunno, i heard she has to charge up ki to shoot the kikouken, doesn't matter though since Spidey has SS and greater bullet-time reflexes. He now also has stingers besides webbing). Chun li can fight better though but Spider-man has more way better all around stats.
what's all this talk about building leveling blasts?
WTF? there is some definite b.s. here that needs to be checked...
FIRST OFF, chun li has NEVER displayed a building leveling blast.... EVER.... if someone else says otherwise please bring the proof I'd like to see it...
the most destructive blast i've ever seen her use was the one that cyber ninja posted.. it was enough to leave a small crater and push some cars... (what people are either forgetting to mention about this or neglecting is that fact that it takes time for here to make large blasts.. the bigger the blast the more time it takes... the more blasts she uses the weaker she becomes... chi takes it's toll on SFers this is displayed multiple times... (ken vs. ryu hado ken showdown for instance)).
unfortunately for chun supporters venom deals out punches with equally destructive force behind them on a constant basis... so did the mutated hobgoblin.. so does luke cage... spiderman's dealt with the force of these blows easily enough....
now granted chun li is better trained than the aformentioned indivicuals... so her blows will probably be more well placed but can she land a blow on spidey? well if he stays out of her range it's going to be rather difficult to do... he projectile attack is near worthless as it's as fast as it takes her to call it out... couple that with his spider sense and she won't hit anything...
now on to some other b.s. have we seen chun li kick apart tanks? well yeah. Hell I'll use that as evidence to support chun li as well...
but for spidey supporters it's only fair to know where this particular evidence comes from....
chun li was displayed kicking apaart a tank in the beginning credits of the U.S. street fighter cartoon... that was it... so take that as you will...
now the MAJOR problem for the pro chun li argument lies within one name and one name alone....
VEGA...
let's get this straight, vega is a normal person, a ninja... not a chi weilder... he's very acrobatic, fast and agile.. the two times he's fought chun li he's put her in the hospital and taken tons upon tons of her blows yet survived.... trade places between him and spiderman.. and things look rather grim for poor chun li imo....
Originally posted by jinzinGood points, however what annoys me is that someone could easily say "well spiderman gets hurt by humans... like vulture blah blah blah"
what's all this talk about building leveling blasts?
WTF? there is some definite b.s. here that needs to be checked...FIRST OFF, chun li has NEVER displayed a building leveling blast.... EVER.... if someone else says otherwise please bring the proof I'd like to see it...
the most destructive blast i've ever seen her use was the one that cyber ninja posted.. it was enough to leave a small crater and push some cars... (what people are either forgetting to mention about this or neglecting is that fact that it takes time for here to make large blasts.. the bigger the blast the more time it takes... the more blasts she uses the weaker she becomes... chi takes it's toll on SFers this is displayed multiple times... (ken vs. ryu hado ken showdown for instance)).
unfortunately for chun supporters venom deals out punches with equally destructive force behind them on a constant basis... so did the mutated hobgoblin.. so does luke cage... spiderman's dealt with the force of these blows easily enough....
now granted chun li is better trained than the aformentioned indivicuals... so her blows will probably be more well placed but can she land a blow on spidey? well if he stays out of her range it's going to be rather difficult to do... he projectile attack is near worthless as it's as fast as it takes her to call it out... couple that with his spider sense and she won't hit anything...now on to some other b.s. have we seen chun li kick apart tanks? well yeah. Hell I'll use that as evidence to support chun li as well...
but for spidey supporters it's only fair to know where this particular evidence comes from....
chun li was displayed kicking apaart a tank in the beginning credits of the U.S. street fighter cartoon... that was it... so take that as you will...now the MAJOR problem for the pro chun li argument lies within one name and one name alone....
VEGA...
let's get this straight, vega is a normal person, a ninja... not a chi weilder... he's very acrobatic, fast and agile.. the two times he's fought chun li he's put her in the hospital and taken tons upon tons of her blows yet survived.... trade places between him and spiderman.. and things look rather grim for poor chun li imo....
he has been hurt by humans... which is why I pointed out that her blows may very well do some damage to spidey..
I'm not so much in favor with one over the other here.. honestly there's a lot of pros and cons to supporting each character and i could see how this fight COULD be a toss up.. right now I'm undecided.. I just wanted to clear a few things here as like i said before.. there was some absolute b.s. that needed to be checked.
well Balrog can Kill a elephant in one blow and Zangief wrestles grizzly bears can survive a F5 tornado and Chun-Li and Vega are still a tier higher then they are.
also I don't think Chun-Li and Vega fought in the cannon storyline.
Miscellaneous Facts and Notes ( from the plotguide)
Balrog (Vega here) from Gamest SF2
The shi-ten-oh's hailing from Spain Balrog.From the carrying of that magnificent body people call out to the
esteemed masked young nobleman.Genious agility at a mix of Japan's time-honored ninjutsu, having
brought forth superhuman speed and destructive power.Facing an abnormal attachment to beauty, he believes that there's no
value in existing except for beautiful things. Naturally that's the
street fight which already is no exception. With back rolls to evade
attacks in such a manner etc. as would be expected from beauty and
feeling, the wire netting climbing being signs of loathsomely climbing
and migrating and the like is quite non-embraceable. The gallery
smiling especially with no feeling, the ultimate narcissist
accomplishing considerations of what to not draw off.Sure killing techniques being the cases of the wire netting climbing
flying Barcelona attack, and the thundering deeply thrusting izuna drop.His private associates are saying "the absolute seized masked man" but,
the supposition is that he's a warped handsome man.Such is Balrog but recently he's sensing the love in E. Honda's calves.
That spoiled one is believed to want to rub-rub the plump seeming to be
good fortune's calves...(disgustiiing!)
[QUOTE]Vega was born in a noble Spanish family. His mother is also from a
noble family but they went under (everyone in this family was beautiful).
The tattoo on his body represents his mother’s side of the family.
Anyways, an ugly nobleman picked her up. Despite his ugliness, he was
loaded so she married him and had Vega. Since Bull Fighting's a common
tradition in some Spanish families, Vega began to develop a taste for it
and became a skillful matador. However, he decided to take a twist in his
hobbies and went to Japan in order to learn Ninjitsu, a style that went
perfectly with his agility and speed. He took part in many street fights
and soon became one of Spain's best cage fighters. Angry that his wife
lacked respect for him, Vega's father killed Vega's mom in secret. This is
what made Vega snap and turned him into a psychotic killer. In the public,
he was just an honorable nobleman. At night he went around killing ugly
street beggars for fun. This is what made M.Bison like him and recruits
him into Shadaloo.He's known as the "young noble of the mask" in the underground
fighting circuit.He still challenges and fights those that he deems imperfect.
His mother was born into a distinguished family. She was a very
famous member of society. She married Vega's father (who was also rich
and famous) as an obligation to her family. As a result, she develeoped
an unusual attachment to beauty, which would eventually be inherited by
Vega. However, Vega seemed to develop a greater attachment to beauty
than his mother.He enjoyed going hunting as a boy. However, he soon lost interest in
hunting because it wasn't much of a challenge. He was eventually
introduced to combative sports. He enjoyed it because the prey fought
back and showed resistance. He soon traded in his hunting rifle for a claw.For Vega, occasionally beauty loses to M. Bison's strength, and at any
time he may accumulate fangs toward M. Bison (Psycho Crusher).Vega finds Balrog (boxer) to be very ugly and dislikes him because of it.
Vega has trained in Ninjitsu since childhood. This is stated in
paragraphs following the one saying he hunted as a boy, so it isn't meant
to conflict with that. ...wow, that's one young kid with a rifle and then
a claw. This is from the SF2D Gamest Mook, btw.Vega joined Shadaloo after being impressed by Bison’s charisma and
competence.Vega wears his mask in order to protect his face in battle. But... you
probably already know that.From HnN regarding his mask and claw:
Balrog doesn't fail to talk about his mask and claw.
To begin with the mask, at first it seemed the mask was for the sake of
hiding his plain face, the fact with his sober face, little by little,
it assumes a beautiful form.Then speaking of why especially covering the beautiful face, it's for
the face to not breathe the regurgitating blood of ugly head-to-head
fighting opponents. Balrog's beauty, persistently facing the ego, he
never flaunts at another person.Next up is the claw, happening to have on hand and same rank as the mask.
Filthy street fighters can be attacked by uneventfully immediate striking
of their skin. Balrog assumes, exceedingly enduring it is for my fist to
be dirty with the blood of ugly human beings. Also, a sharp claw providing
for enemy gouging strategies, his brutal personality's entire face is
protruding out.This being for the thoroughly fastidious nature, the appearance of
Balrog's mask and hooked claw to be formed. Seen that how he believes
is with no concern for people, here is the world of the perfect ego
fascination.Incidentally, how does Balrog roll with the hooked claw? Assumed to be
a part of the rising human doubts, with his excellent agile nature,
an impossibility turns into a possibility at a superhuman pace.
Contrary to popular belief, his full name is NOT Vega Fabio de Cerna.Vega doesn't tell just anyone that he's a member of Shadaloo. He
denies it to Zangief in SFA3, and only lets Rose on because he knows that
Rose won't bother telling anyone else and will go to die at Bison's hand,
anyway. Honorable noble by day, sadistic killer by night, after all.SF2 Anniversary Website: Spanish ninja. Under the mask, that imaginative
beauty cannot hold a viciously cruel face within.Poor Vega. I can see why a lover of beauty like him would be so
frustrated within Shadaloo. Balrog and Bison aren't exactly the most
handsome guys around. No wonder why he took such an interest in dolls
(particularly Cammy, who canonwise is supposed to be the prettiest of them
all, too. Genetically cloned for perfection will do that, ya know? Even
an ugly guy like Bison appreciates some aesthetics 😛). For more info on
Vega and the dolls, see Juli and Juni's bio and Cammy's bio. Another
interesting thing to note is that Vega is an assassin of Shadowloo, too,
which probably put him into direct competition with the dolls for who was
the best assassin within Shadowloo. This is another reason why he probably
knows Cammy so much (and probably the rest of the dolls, too, though
officially, Cammy's supposed to be the most beautiful).One of the better ways to describe his
feelings for Cammy is 'really @#$@#ed up love for her'. This may or may not
translate to romance, which is cool IMHO because it makes the
relationship's future prospects suspenseful and filled with potential for
exploration. Cammy of course doesn't like Vega much at all, though. I doubt
Vega would ever be willing to tell her her history, either... which would
actually probably be for the best for both of them.
Vega's original design used to be an English knight with a sword, but
Capcom obviously scrapped that idea before the final version of Vega. Some
concept art of him in that fashion might still be around on the net
somewhere... I know I've seen some, before, but I forget where. I believe
that the Vega we have now though is much better than the sword one.
Other Original Proto-Concepts for Vega:
1) A ninja, with Vega's mask and claw, but smooth semi-spiked hair.
2) More of a Blanka-Vega hybrid- Blanka's hair, Vega's mask, and dressed in
clothing similar to Sodom's.[/QUOTE]
An official art of Vega depicts him in his luxurious quarters with a
panther and some other hunter cats prowling or sleeping around. ...Vega
and Cammy would get along quite well in regards to their like of cats,
except I don't know whether or not Cammy would approve of really big ones
like lions and panthers 😛
vega is stated by the SF2 Fanbook to "likely be jealous of Chun-Li's
good looks".
okay... 😕
the point is that vega who lacks chi manipulation (he's for all intents and purposes a normal man) has hospitalized every street fighter he's ever faced in any SF media ken (x2), chun li (x2), blanka, dan... with his human agility and speed.. if he got hits like that with regular speed and agility what do you think spidey's gonna do to them with his spider sense?
if we're going by canon storyline strictly, multiple kicks from chun li didn't even kill a normal thug much less take him apart.. which doesn't bode well for CL.
Balrog also lacks chi manipulation but can still Kill a elephant in one blow.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/recognition/13990.html
edit: for the last time the SF comic is not cannon )
Oh, THERE ARE NO ANIMES, MANGAS, MOVIES, COMIC BOOKS, OR GRAPHIC NOVELS
THAT OFFICIALLY ARE PART OF THE CANON. Capcom can't be bothered to review
and restrict animes, mangas, graphic novels, and doujinshis to force
their storyline to comply with the canon. Capcom did not MAKE any of
those animes, mangas, or graphic novels. They simply licensed out the
Street Fighter name and characters to others, but granting a license to
someone to use characters and concepts isn't the same as letting them
overwrite the official storyline within the games. Of course, they try to
make sure the content wasn't too 'inappropriate', but fan-made doujinshis
tend to be off in the great wild west. If something gets really bad,
like those Malibu comics, they will step in and yank the license away,
but they still won't restrict the anime/comic makers to sticking to
the exact canon. That would be too... well, restrictive. Again, Capcom
did not make any of those animes. Other companies did. Capcom just gave
them the license. Thus they are not canon in any way (although sometimes
their events are inspired/based PARTIALLY off the actual storyline, of
course). Their events are not canon, their relations between characters are
not canon, and the artistic license portrayal of the characters'
personalities within them aren't canon, even. As the original
creators and owners of the series did not make them nor did they force the
storylines of them, otherwise the bizarre mutant known as the Street
Fighter Live Action movie would never have come out. And also, Capcom
wouldn't have been inspired by the Street Fighter Animated Movie to make
the Street Fighter Alpha series. Why would they be inspired by something
that was their own creation? The Street Fighter Animated Movie was not
their own creation. They handed it over to another company and then after
it was released, Capcom was so impressed that they decided to create their
own spin on the thing and have an anime-ish style street fighter game and
plotline. But they had no hand in the creation of that movie and Capcom
and ONLY Capcom creates the true official stuff for their own Street
Fighter series. If it's not in the games or it's not an official statement
by the company (most likely found in the official books released by the
company which unlike many strategy guides and animes ARE created and
reviewed by Capcom, as detailing the official storyline is one of their
main selling points), then it's not official. Do not misinterpret the
trademark clauses in those animes, "Original concept and design blah blah
blah by Capcom." That is meant toshow that Capcom made the ORIGINAL
Street Fighter series and the anime makers (who were NOT Capcom) based the
anime off of that. That doesn't suggest that Capcom had anything to do
with the making of the anime at all. The meaning of that sentence is that
the trademark Street Fighter and the original canon story that the anime
was BASED off of was made by Capcom. That's why it's ORIGINAL concept
and Design. ALL animes and all movies based off a license that aren't made
by the parent company have that. The Street Fighter Live Action Movie
probably had that disclaimer in its credits, lest the copyright lawyers get
on their case.
Tier 1
Gill, especially, with his fire and
ice creation, angel powers, and his last boss towering status. Akuma
should be, too. By SF3, the guy can destroy mountains, islands, and stay
in deep ocean for crying out loud. And Oro beat Ryu in the SF3 tournament,
and that was despite being handicapped by binding his arm. The guy's
become powerful enough to live to 150 years or so... I won't go into a
deeper analysis due to how obvious this tier is. Who specifically is the
best among Gill, Oro, and Akuma is up in the air, but eh, tiers aren't
supposed to be THAT specific. Bison during SFA3 probably went into this
range, also. Being able to take on Ken and Sakura at the same time (only
forced to retreat due to Ryu coming to), then Rose, then all 13 Dolls, then
Guile, Chun-Li, and Charlie has got to say something.
Ingrid is here int he god tier because she's literally a goddess. When
Bison stole her psycho power, she was probably in tier 2 or tier 3
(around Rose's level or maybe a bit above) but that's just a guess. This
tier is a guess for her as well. However, as Bison managed to steal her
power in the first place, she obviously isn't completely invincible,
thus I hesitate to say she's above the rest of the god tier of
Akuma, SFA3 Bison, Oro, and Gill (who himself is semi-god-ish, anyways).
This all assumes that one takes Ingrid's existance in SF seriously
in the first place, of course. And given that Ingrid isn't around
in SF2 because she's time-skipping to 201X, that still makes Chun-Li
the strongest woman in the world during that time 😛 (heck, it can
be argued that Ingrid isn't an inhabitant of the world, as well)
Tier 2
M. Bison: Akuma can beat him in SF2. Whether Akuma could have beaten him
during SFA3 where he was stronger (and Akuma was most likely weaker), not
sure, but in his last state, he generally goes here from all KNOWN factual
evidence (unknown stuff like how he lost the SF2 tournament or even if he
DID since we don't know when Akuma killed him aren't being considered here
since... well, it's unknown). He's definately high up, though. His
weakened body wasn't weakened to the point where he'd really really plummet
in the tiers, and during Alpha 3 it took a rather ludicrous amount of
consecutive battles against multiple opponents to finally take him down.
Ryu: Seen by Oro as the one with the potential to be trained, generally
considered a legend (see Makoto's statements about him), whomped Alex
easily in Third Strike, only lost the SF3 tournament because he went up
against the godly Oro and even then impressed the old guy, etc etc. This
one should be pretty obvious
Evil Ryu: A major point of Ryu's SFA3 storyline is that he could follow
the path to warrior perfection without giving in to the Satsu no Hadou.
Even though Evil Ryu was really high up back then, the reason regular Ryu
is on the same tier is due to Ryu's revelations since then. He has now
managed to reach what he could have been had he given in. Generally shown
by Ryu promptly telling Akuma that Satsu no Hadou is not the way in SF3.
Er... yea. It's mostly implied as far as I know, but the implications are
more than enough to place the two into this tier with enough certainty.
Sagat: Although he was too obsessed with revenge and unfocused during
Alpha, by the end of Alpha 3, he has realized the error of his ways and is
now on the path to the true warrior. All statements and storyline
implications from there on are that Sagat is matching Ryu step for step in
progress as they await their glorious battle, so it's really easy to tier
Sagat here. Note that this is Sagat in his most present state, not most
present state since when he was last seen in a game, since unlike other
characters, it's easy to estimate where Sagat is even without seeing him
due to all the statements and implications.
Q: Q is marked as 'hinted' because there's no way to really gauge his
tier, what with him having no interactions with anyone else in the
storyline. But he's robotic and can somehow zip around the world, and
those are typically always powerful, and the effects of his moves sure look
darn powerful. So as a guestimate, he gets to be in this tier. Though
again, it's mostly a guess.
Tier 3
Rose: She's M. Bison lite. She's the only character in Alpha that was
actually able to give Bison a somewhat decent match one-on-one. But... she
still lost, so she's a tier lower. Rose could put up a fight against Alpha
Bison (well, actually, she WON in Alpha 2. Only 'lost' in Alpha 3) while
Chun-Li got owned for free in Alpha 2, and since there really isn't much to
indicate that Chun-Li improved THAT much since Alpha, Rose gets to be a
tier higher. Chun-Li only started being called the strongest woman in the
world since SF2, after Rose was gone.
Ken: Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close. Thus Ken
gets this tier. Pretty obvious, I think.
Gen: I think it's hard to decide whether he's in tier 2 or tier 3, but
he's definately up there. Gen was able to fight Akuma to a standstill in
Alpha, after all. He's definately not as good as the further trained Akuma
of SF3, though (Gen of course being most likely unable to further train
because he's most likely dead). I'd be really surprised if he (and thus
even Akuma during that time) was as strong as "I take on tons of people by
myself" SFA3 Bison, so... generally tier 3 for him. On a random note, Gen
uses ki in his attacks with lots of skill. It's just not as obvious as
Akuma (not all ki usage manifests as fireballs or something visual).
Charlie: Charlie is the US Martial Arts champion. Took down Bison in
SFA3, albeit with a little help. What mainly puts him here with certainty
instead of circumstantiality though I believe is how he's better than Guile
(even SF2 Guile). Charlie's ki manipulation is implied to be right up
there with Ryu and other top-notch fighters. He can shoot sonic booms from
any of his limbs, even his feet (something that Guile needs LOTS of
concentration to do. It takes Guile two hands and officially stated all
his focus just to throw one sonic boom). Since Guile, at least based on
what we can think of, comes into the tier below, and Charlie is definately
above Guile, even without the circumstantial evidence, we can generally
place Charlie in this tier.
Urien: Like Gen, I'm personally not sure if he should be in Tier 2 or Tier
3, but he's up there. He's better than Chun-Li (he's only toying with her
in SF3 Third Strike after all) and definately lower than Gill (Gill doesn't
even have to take him seriously and his power compared to Urien's is one of
the many things Urien is jealous of, of course). Anyways, Urien's
abilities include earth and lightning manipulation and an iron body (as
part of his earth manipulation). He's blinded by jealousy, though. This
is why despite having power equal to Gill, he likely is weaker in actual
practice (less focused).
Tier 4
Guile: Most likely winner of the SF2 tournament. If you decide to ignore
that, then there's also the way in how he's storyline-wise more interwoven
and more 'important' than most of the other SF2 characters, and they
typically get favored in the storyline power tiers. And I believe he's
meant to be the same power as Chun-Li, but I forget^^; Whatever the case,
he's been training really hard since SFA3, though Charlie in SFA3 was still
most likely better than him (see Charlie in Tier 3 for reasons). He isn't
progressing any more because he gave up fighting after SF2 to be a family
man.
Chun-Li: Weaker than Rose but after Rose died then come SF2, is called the
strongest woman in the world, thus gets to be above the other female
characters in the next tier. That was easy. ...er, going further, Chun-Li
isn't any higher because she quit the ICPO and generally retired from
fighting and training after SF2 (course, after SF3, she trains OTHERS, but
that's another story). Anyways, Capcom has stated that she's the strongest
woman in the world during SF2, so it's not just the opinion of the SF
tournament audience (or whatever) that she is.
Hugo: Actually rather surprising he's up here, but all the facts point to
it. Hugo is officially stated to have withstood the shin shoryuken against
Ryu, which is officially stated to be one of the most powerful moves in the
world, so right there you know he's a really strong guy. He is also
officially stated to have made 'an amazing performance' in the SF3
tournament, which probably means he's generally above the majority of the
SF3 characters (he lost the tournament due to going up against Ryu, of
course. Oh, and to those who think Hugo is all stamina and nothing else, I
highly doubt he would have been stated to have made an amazing performance
if he didn't at least put up a somewhat decent fight against Ryu. So no,
he's not just a big punching bag with lots of endurance). As for who is
better, Hugo or Alex, well, Hugo withstanding the shin shoryuken means that
he probably put up a better fight against Ryu than Alex did. He withstood
an attack that officially could kill someone (Yea, Ryu's style isn't
designed to kill, but that doesn't mean it can't kill due to the sheer
damage alone) compared to Alex, who Ryu didn't even break a sweat fighting
against. That would probably earn him a tier spot higher. Ryu still beat
him somewhat soundly, though, so he's definately not up in Ken's tier.
Note, though, that many of these tiers are at best, educated guesses and
estimates. Maybe Alex made a huge comeback after Ryu was beating him (the
fight wasn't completely finished in Alex's TS ending) but from all
available evidence, this is the best that can be estimated.
Vega: Cammy's love-hate rival is generally better than her, and almost
positively let her win in their fight in SFA3. Therefore, Vega's a tier
higher than Cammy. Easy. He's also a better fighter within Shadaloo than
Balrog, I believe (not sure if it was officially stated. I think it was,
but I forget). He doesn't go any higher because that would place him on
Gen's level, which seems pretty darn silly. Capcom doesn't go around
praising his ability like they do for Charlie. Course... a harder more
definitive proof might just be simply that Rose beats him in A3. He
seems around the same ability as Chun-Li, given the rivalry
Capcom initially endorsed between them (where Vega was jealous of Chun-Li's
beauty). Of course, I guess they decided Cammy was a better match later
on.
Twelve: Again, there's lack of storyline interaction. But Twelve
officially feels no pain, and he can morph into other characters, so he's
probably up there somewhere. He's at least tier 5, because all lab reports
from Gill's organization indicate that he should be superior to Necro in
every way (not that that means it's fact, but it's the best thing to go by
so far. Course, you never know how far 'spirit' could go, I suppose).
teir 5
Guy and Cody: Hard to tier, IMHO. They can beat Sodom and Rolento,
obviously. They can also beat a whole bunch of the Mad Gear gang, but it's
important to remember that they did not fight through Final Fight alone and
also that it's wholly possible and likely that the SF universe follows the
laws of anime (IE, any generic bad guy is really weak and easy to beat up
by most any semi-important character), thus the fact that they can take out
most of the Mad Gear scrubs isn't a very good gauge, either. Guy, even
though he is a Bushin master, is still equal to Cody even during SFA3,
though, so we at least know they are on the same tier. But storyline-wise,
neither has ever really gone up against any of the really high tier Street
Fighter characters, so this is the best guess we can get to place them
unless more *comparative* info ever comes in. Actually, though, after
getting Juni's official power ratings that she scans in SFA3, I'm thinking
that Sodom, Rolento, Guy, and Cody are probably a lot higher than this.
Probably around Charlie's level during SFA3, actually. And... Cody being
below Hugo doesn't seem right.
Adon: Strong enough to beat Sagat in SFA2. Sagat may have been unfocused,
but he was still powerful. There aren't many other matches to use to tier
him with hard core certainty, but beating SFA2 Sagat and being the new Muy
Thai Emperor should be enough to give him this tier.
Sakura: She's better than Karin. It's officially stated that her chi
manipulation is equal to Ken's during SFA3. The girl's ridiculously gifted
and able to learn Ryu's moves just by watching him. If Sakura continued
training on and on after SFA3, she could really be something.
Unfortunately, since SFA3 was so incredibly long ago, and Sakura's future
still highly up in the air (highschool is really a bit too early in life to
get that hard a bead on one's future, I think), the tier can really only go
by her last seen position (unlike Sagat, where it's shown that he's still
in the game after SF2 and his determination to stay on level with Ryu is
further emphasized). Anyways, Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world
so Sakura is below her, regardless. Oh, and judging from SFA3, she can
beat Honda, so she gets to be higher than him.
Balrog: Can kill an elephant with his bare hands. Generally among the top
fighters in Shadaloo (not sure if it was officially stated, though I think
it was... it's implied, at least) and thus higher than the Dolls. Oh, and
judging by SFA3, he beat Birdie. Probably weaker than Vega, so here he
goes. Even if he's an idiot, he's still armed with 'the world's strongest
punches'...
Cammy: She's better than the other Dolls but weaker than Vega. ...wow,
that was easy.
Zangief: A bit hard to tier, but being implied to be Russia's greatest
warrior should account for something. He's better than R. Mika (it seems
he goes easy on her in SFA3 and all), and R. Mika is most likely better
than Dan, so Zangief gets to go here. On a random note, I have no clue
where Haggar (or any other Final Fight exclusive character, really) fits
in, here. Even Cody and Guy, who weren't exclusive to only Final Fight,
are hard to tier. Can't even decide whether or not Haggar is on Zangief's
level because the two never even met in person, after all, so there's no
interaction to use to compare.
T. Hawk: He can beat (and most likely actually has beaten) the Doll
Noembelu. ...another easy one.
Dhalsim: Loses to Ryu (at least, implied by one of Ryu's SF3 win quotes).
A bit hard to tier, but he's been going around doing lots of good things
for the world and has that fire power granted by the gods and such. There
might be more that I should poke Saiki for, but overall, this is a pretty
good guess, I think. He retired from fighting after SF2, by the way.
Alex: Alex is better than all the other SF3 characters (besides heavy
hitters like Ryu and Oro, who he never had to fight) as can be seen by him
winning the SF3 tournament. However, he's still not really that high up
since Ryu beat him VERY easily in Third Strike. Thus he only gets to be a
tier higher than where the other SF3 characters go. He's below Hugo even
though they never fought because Hugo actually put up a fight against Ryu.
tier 6
All the characters listed have been stated to beat other skilled
people, even if none of them were actually non-nameless goons. Or...
something to that effect. The twelve Dolls are each stronger than each of
the other 2000 skilled martial artists in Shadaloo (They aren't called
elite for nothing), Rolento and Sodom rise above all generic Mad Gear
members to be bosses, Karin loses to Sakura but still puts up a good fight
so she's probably only a tier lower, Birdie fought hard enough to impress
Bison in order to join Shadaloo (and thus is also probably above the other
2000 skilled martial artists. Eh, he got to be playable and get a name
while they didn't 😛)... Necro is implied due to all his genetically
enhanced abilities that probably give him an edge, and Dudley beat lots of
guys in his boxing career to earn money to buy his dads' things back.
Juni, however, might be higher due to her augmentation she developed from
scanning Akuma.
Tier 7
'Grown-up' nobodies. Not much else to say. Well, E. Honda rose
to become a good sumo wrestler at least, but not sure if that says enough
for him. He beat Sodom in SFA2, but that's because Sodom was fighting as a
sumo wrestler and thus not using his primary fighting style, so...
Tier 8
'Teeny-bopper' nobodies. Poor Yun, Yang, Makoto, and Elena just
don't have enough official statements implying their good abilities to go
higher. Er... no offense to these characters with the 'nobody' remarks, of
course.
Tier 9
Characters that Capcom of Japan just doesn't seem to like 😛 Well,
okay, Dan's probably weak on purpose.
Tier 10
Judging by where Capcom seems to be going with Sean, it seems
like he really IS weaker than Dan at this point. It's like a joke in
itself, almost. Almost like when Sean says "Hey, I'm not Dan!", he's
right. He's not Dan. He's worse! Even Dan doesn't get his ass kicked
THAT often in the official storyline. Sure, it was to Ryu and Ken, but the
only time Dan got his ass whupped as an ending joke was to cyber Akuma in a
VS game. Sean gets portrayed as getting kicked around a lot more than Dan,even, so...
No they didn't
read the plot guide
and here's the proof.
http://www.newsarama.com/UDON/SFII/ErikInt/StreetFighterUdon.htm
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2940922#post2940922
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173&page=226
Originally posted by unrealman
you do know that a elephant is tougher and stronger than a water buffalo but that's defeinlty impressive killinh a water buffalo with a pat. now what can Ogun do to a full grown Bull elephant?edit: when you say pat do you mean like when some gives you a pat in the back or a Light Jab?
i'm talkin about a pat on the back kind of pat... imagine what a full blow from him would do