Originally posted by xyz revolution
😬 no, it made religion evolution.
I don't understand this post. Please help me. 😉
My belief of what God is; Everything including you and me. The universe plus all things that have been, are and will be, including all things that have never been, are not or will never be. Therefore you are God.
Look at the world, see how complex this way of matter and how different the world is. See how these animals and plants live with eachother and how well they've gotten to know eachother and change themselves to work with eachother. Now you tell me that all this was created at an instant 6,000 years ago when the world is 5 billion years old. Look at the world and how fascinating and old it looks. Don't tell me it was designed like that when their's no evidence for it.
Explained in a way they'd understand. 🙂
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/educators/teachstuds/svideos.html
a whole volume of evolution facts. 😉
Originally posted by GregoryI agree with him. Kent Hovind isn't a REAL scientist.
Kent Hovind is highly dishonest, and the challange is set up to be impossible. Among other things, Hovind reserves the right to throw out evidence he doens't like before the judges even see it. Some of his questions are nonsense (how did matter get to be so well organized? "Well-organized" in what sense?) Others relate to cosmology, not evoltution. And some are just plain stupid (a few hours ago, I resolved to try to be nicer to creationists, but I'm making an exception for Hovind).."WHY would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of its survival? (Does the INDIVIDUAL have a drive to survive, or the SPECIES? How do you explain this?)" Someone doesn't understand how natural selection works.
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Originally posted by sithsaber408Kent Hovind doesn't even know what the words 'muse', 'amuse' or even 'evolution' mean.
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Offered by Dr. Kent Howard to:
Anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.
(see h**p://www.drdino.com/Articles/Article1.htm.)
He gives 15 questions for an evolutionist to answer with proof(not theory/guesses) :
Originally posted by sithsaber408It din't come from anywhere. It always existed. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Neither can space, time and matter. *******. 😐
1.) WHERE did the universe come from?
Originally posted by sithsaber408It ALWAYS existed. As explained before. *******. 😐
2.) WHERE did matter come from?
Originally posted by sithsaber408ALWAYS existed. They weren't thought up. They're just something that happens. *******. 😐
3.) WHERE did the LAWS of the universe come from (gravity,inertia, etc.)?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Perfectly organised? WTF? Yeah things are really accurate aren't they? Everything is matter, therefore things are just different, not better built. *******. 😐
4.) HOW did matter get so perfectly organized?
Originally posted by sithsaber408WTF? Again you say organised. Life isn't organised. And energy can't be created or come from somewhere. *******. 😐
5.) WHERE did the ENERGY come from to do all the organizing?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Life IS dead matter. We're not made from matter, we ARE matter. The elements reacted into molocules, then into DNA, then cells, which reproduce into tissues, then organs, then systems, then organisms. *******. 😐
6.) WHEN, WHERE, WHY, and HOW did life come from dead matter?
Originally posted by sithsaber408We don't know yet. Why don't you figure it out for yourself instead of asking stupid ****ing questions. *******. 😐
7.) WHEN, WHERE, WHY, and HOW did life learn to reproduce itself?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Same as the previous. *******. 😐
8.) With WHAT did the FIRST cell capable of reproduction reproduce?
Originally posted by sithsaber408
(cont.)9). WHY would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of its survival? (Does the INDIVIDUAL have a drive to survive, or the SPECIES? How do you explain this?)
Originally posted by sithsaber408It's not mutations that change us, its chemical reactions in our cells when still developing in the womb. Why do think drugs change a babies growth? *******. 😐
10). HOW can MUTATIONS (recombing of the genetic code) create any NEW, IMPROVED varieties? (Recombing English letters, no matter how many times, will never produce Chinese books.)
Originally posted by sithsaber408
11). Is it possible that similarities in design prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Ermm, climate change. You change the environment, you change the species. However it happens slowly because we're so complex. *******. 😐
12.) Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends to keep a species stable. HOW would you explain the Increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occured if evolution were true?
Erm...Cap your not helping the evolution cause here...
The point of those questions is to show that evolution currently doesn't have a perfect answer to the current question of "how we came to be" Now your answer "its always existed" is rubbish... I don't think your going to change any IDer's minds with that line, While I agree with evolution, I know it still lacks alot... seeing as you seem hell bent on changing there minds perhaps you should try to understand the flaws in evolution before you point out the flaws in ID... This will lead you to see what ID see, And perhaps you can there get a better feeling for how to change there mind...
Saying "its always existed", For how long? how many times has the universe closed?? How many big bangs have there been? do you mean to imply that there was never a start, and time is infinty old???
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissBut Kent Hovind doesn't even know thatEvoultion is a science.That's what I'm saying.
Erm...Cap your not helping the evolution cause here...The point of those questions is to show that evolution currently doesn't have a perfect answer to the current question of "how we came to be" Now your answer "its always existed" is rubbish... I don't think your going to change any IDer's minds with that line, While I agree with evolution, I know it still lacks alot... seeing as you seem hell bent on changing there minds perhaps you should try to understand the flaws in evolution before you point out the flaws in ID... This will lead you to see what ID see, And perhaps you can there get a better feeling for how to change there mind...
Saying "its always existed", For how long? how many times has the universe closed?? How many big bangs have there been? do you mean to imply that there was never a start, and time is infinty old???
Originally posted by Captain Falcon
Why don't you ask them yourself. 😆 but seriously. We don't ****ing know YET! Meaning we will know, but assholes like you, aren't helping. *******. 😐It's not mutations that change us, its chemical reactions in our cells when still developing in the womb. Why do think drugs change a babies growth? *******. 😐
No, that's just ****ing stupid and throwing out all the other possibilities. You honestly believe that it's coincidence we share genes with todays apes? Oh that's right, coincidence doesn't exist. "It is the way of Allah/God"
Ermm, climate change. You change the environment, you change the species. However it happens slowly because we're so complex. *******. 😐
Before telling everyone else to do research, do them yourself. You're really giving us science-lovers a bad name by giving incomplete/incorrect answers and bashing people.
Originally posted by Captain Falcon
But Kent Hovind doesn't even know thatEvoultion is a science.That's what I'm saying.
And if you read this thread though, Several ID disregard what Kent says, Hes not an accurate representative for the ID side of the debate, But some of his questions do have a point. While I agree that Evolution is a step forward, there is still steps evolution has to climb....