Darth Malak versus Darth Traya

Originally posted by zephiel7
In this scenario I have no proof other than show what malak has accomplished. Malak harnessed the energy of the star forge and stood his ground against Revan. The same can be said about the Exile and Traya, but I think Malak would have enough power to weaken the effect of Traya's force drain. Then he would close the ground seperating the two and wail on her with his lightsaber. I dont know the answer, I am just going with Malak because he is younger and healthier.

Traya wins.

Malak doesn't have no Star Forge to help him this time.

Malak is healthier? Can you prove this? What indicates that he is healthier? I mean... I could go as far as saying he isn't all too healthy because his Jaw was severed from him.

He's younger... That ussually means he is in better shape of health.

And we don't know how much more powerful the Star Forge has made him, so we don't know how much of a difference it would make. We do know that Malak has fought every other battle he's been in without the Star Forge however and he has won them all... So Star Forge or no Star Forge it hardly makes a difference in this fight.

He's younger... That ussually means he is in better shape of health.

Usually.... But if Kreia is more powerful in the Force, she could sustain her health with it as well.

And we don't know how much more powerful the Star Forge has made him, so we don't know how much of a difference it would make. We do know that Malak has fought every other battle he's been in without the Star Forge however and he has won them all... So Star Forge or no Star Forge it hardly makes a difference in this fight.

Malak was supposedly more powerful when he sucked the energies from the Star Forge and from Republic Soldiers (Which I think is steering to Bullshit land, to be honest.) so if he doesn't have that with him, he could be alot easier to defeat.

Could be yes... But by how much? We have no idea.

He has fought every battle except for one without the Star Forge however and we know that he was very powerful even without. Saying he's going to be an easy kill because he doesn't have the Star forge is stupid as we have no way of knowing how much more powerful he became because of the Forge. And even if we did, he was fighting Revan... We don't know how Revan would compare to Kreia in a fight either.

Can you not tell how powerful Malak is by seeing how hard it is to deplete his life force without him sucking the life out of the jedi.

Originally posted by Numan
Can you not tell how powerful Malak is by seeing how hard it is to deplete his life force without him sucking the life out of the jedi.

No, because thats an in game thing... In game things hardly matter, because if that would matter then things would be really different every single time somebody plays the game.

Maybe Revan couldn't even use techniques like that.

Traya is Malak's clear superior. She's demonstrated the power to tool with some of the most powerful of the Jedi Order at that time.

And Malak defeated the most powerful Jedi knight in the order at that time...

Perhaps not in the way Kreia did, but Kreia has never once faced a member of the order when they were ready for her. She threw Zez Kai down (who btw is weaker then Kavar) with a force push in his back, she never really met Kavar or Vrook until the moment those two died... Through a technique that she doesn't even necessarily control or can use all the time, and they weren't ready for her then.

She is powerful with the force more powerful then Malak, but to tool with him through the force? I don't know.

Originally posted by Fishy
And Malak defeated the most powerful Jedi knight in the order at that time...

Perhaps not in the way Kreia did, but Kreia has never once faced a member of the order when they were ready for her. She threw Zez Kai down (who btw is weaker then Kavar) with a force push in his back, she never really met Kavar or Vrook until the moment those two died... Through a technique that she doesn't even necessarily control or can use all the time, and they weren't ready for her then.

She is powerful with the force more powerful then Malak, but to tool with him through the force? I don't know.

What? If anything they get WTFpwned by her. She walks in and says "enough!" and gives them about two seconds to respond. And then when Vrook gets back up again she puts him back on his arse...

Originally posted by Darth Traya
What? If anything they get WTFpwned by her. She walks in and says "enough!" and gives them about two seconds to respond. And then when Vrook gets back up again she puts him back on his arse...

Do any of them have their lightsabers? I'll have to watch the thing again, from what I remember she just walked in said something they died and then started talking to the Exile...

i don't think malak would get near!! if it was sabers only Malak probably wins but Traya seems too powerful in the force to let this happen ! she could always unleash her 3 floating saber style on him THEN WTFpwn him!! 😂 i had to run away from her so i could deal with the sabers in the game!!!

Could she? I mean Malak is a lightsaber prodigy, far greater then the Exile how hard would it be for him to get through that defence?

is that why he has no jaw???(correct me if im wrong but didn't he lose it in a ls duel???

Yeah most likely...

And then again, he most likely lost his jaw in a duel against Revan. Far more likely against Revan then anybody else at least. So that doesn't mean a lot.

well if reven did it then he is excused 😂
i thought maybe it was revealed somewhere what happened to his jaw!!

NO doubt if he got close to her (especially if she only has 1 hand) she'd be toast, but I'd like to think that wouldn't happen! Kreia does seem more intelligent than malak....

Definitly, i'm not saying she will lose. I'm just not sure about this fight and I haven't really seen all that much conclusive evidence for either side. I'm basically undecided and will just debate which ever side claims that one or the other will win until I figure out who will win.

Still Kreia has the brain and the force power, but Malak isn't stupid or a weakling with the force and he does have the physical and the lightsaber advantage.

Originally posted by Fishy
Do any of them have their lightsabers? I'll have to watch the thing again, from what I remember she just walked in said something they died and then started talking to the Exile...

Yep...

Originally posted by Fishy
Do any of them have their lightsabers? I'll have to watch the thing again, from what I remember she just walked in said something they died and then started talking to the Exile...

As soon as Traya steps in, she freezes the Exile. Then, Vrook steps forward, and she tosses him back. He gets up again, steps up between Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell, and is again floored by a Force Push. Randomly, the stasis field srops, and the Exile falls to the ground, unconcious. Traya says something referring to how she wants the Jedi Masters to suffer as the Exile suffered, and bada-bing, she drains all three of them at the same time.

Okay that makes it a lot more impressive then what I remembered, and definitly ups her force powers by quite a bit.

Now I know Kreia is force PWNage and totally destroyed the three Jedi masters. But Malak was never in a situation where he could have sliced them into salami. So the question is how powerful are the three Jedi masters that Kreia killed?