Jean Grey vs. Wonder Woman

Started by soleran306 pages

WW due to speedblitz................................take away speed and JG....................however SB 4 the win WW.

Would Wonder Woman's tiera be able to go through Jean's force fields? It seemed to go through Superman's aura pretty easily.

Yes but JG could stop the tierra's movement essentially same with the lasso etc etc

Wasn't Supes unable to get through Jean's TK field in a crossover?

Crossovers aren't canon.

Originally posted by soleran30
Yes but JG could stop the tierra's movement essentially same with the lasso etc etc

When thrown by someone with strength enough to lift tankers, the tiara would move with speeds of Mach 50 or something. Jean wouldn't have time to slow it.

Unless she emits her energy in a field around her to slow everything around her before the effort ism ade to throw the lasso🙂 Anyway at mach50 the sound barrier being broken that fast would probably knock her off her feet

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Crossovers aren't canon.

I know crossovers aren't canon. Neither are What Ifs, etc. That wasn't my question. When Superman and Jean fought, was he able to get through her shield?

If Jean telekinetically freezes the whole area around them both, WW's attacks will be slowed down. And because Jean now has super sensitive telekinetic sensitivity, she can feel everything through telekinesis. She doesn't need to see things, she can fight with her eyes closed. And it only takes a millisecond for Jean to make a kill. WW can't do anything, she loses if she enters the field, and no one wins if she doesn't.

You must not understand how many times faster then a thought Wonder Woman is. Like fifty times. Before Jean could react, or even think about doing anything, Wonder Woman would have decapitated her.

Outside Jean's telekinetic freeze field she is, but inside it she's not. And despero defeated her and nearly killed her before by encasing her inside a solid box, filling her throat and lungs with his forcefield. Of course Jean can do the same only better and faster. WW can be taken down by others that don't have super speed. And I think Supes wasn't able to get past her shields in their fight.

Originally posted by coosie
Outside Jean's telekinetic freeze field she is, but inside it she's not. And despero defeated her and nearly killed her before by encasing her inside a solid box, filling her throat and lungs with his forcefield. Of course Jean can do the same only better and faster. WW can be taken down by others that don't have super speed. And I think Supes wasn't able to get past her shields in their fight.

I think that the Flame of Py'tar gave Despero enhansed speed as well as strength and toughness, not sure though.

The main problem I see with Jean is tracking WW. If she starts with her sheild up (and she'd have to if she wants to live for more than a second) then she will have to keep it up the entire fight and at a high enough level to protect her from a hell of a lot of Superman-level attacks. Now I know that Jean is a very strong mutant, but I just don't see her keeping that strong of a shield up and still tracking Wonder Woman as to mount any type of offensive attack. Eventually she will get tired from the strain and WW will take her out, IMO.

Originally posted by coosie
Outside Jean's telekinetic freeze field she is, but inside it she's not. And despero defeated her and nearly killed her before by encasing her inside a solid box, filling her throat and lungs with his forcefield. Of course Jean can do the same only better and faster. WW can be taken down by others that don't have super speed. And I think Supes wasn't able to get past her shields in their fight.

It's just that she needs a thought to make the telekinetic field. And Wonder Woman is faster then thought.

This is also assuming that WW can locate JG in the first place. That's to say what's stopping JG from masking herself totally or creating a totally false identity that others are unable to detect.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
This is also assuming that WW can locate JG in the first place. That's to say what's stopping JG from masking herself totally or creating a totally false identity that others are unable to detect.

Eyes of Pallas enable WW to see the truth. Being the Goddess of Truth does have some advantages outside of the title. 😉

I think the speed of WW isn't going to be a factor. Once she's inside Jean's tk field it's gonna be like moving you moving under water. Jean can do anything that is connected to telekinesis and telepathy since she is an omega level. Plus she can control WW's lasso by wrapping it in a telekinetic shield and moving it around.

Originally posted by Draco69
And he broke free with a twitch of his arms. He wasn't exactly sublight speedblitzing, now was he?

I'm not sure that's what happend. Jean said to Jugs that she has more than enough telekinetic power to hold him in place then she wrapped Jugs in a telekinetic chain but she sensed that Jugs wasn't struggling so she removed it.

Originally posted by coosie
Outside Jean's telekinetic freeze field she is, but inside it she's not. And despero defeated her and nearly killed her before by encasing her inside a solid box, filling her throat and lungs with his forcefield. Of course Jean can do the same only better and faster. WW can be taken down by others that don't have super speed. And I think Supes wasn't able to get past her shields in their fight.

I was wrong. It was Sinestro not Despero who beat WW and nearly killed her by encasing her inside a box and drowned her in force field. Jean can do the same.

Originally posted by coosie
I was wrong. It was Sinestro not Despero who beat WW and nearly killed her by encasing her inside a box and drowned her in force field. Jean can do the same.

There's a HUGE differance between a GREEN LANTERN and Jean Grey. The ring has automatic defenses that allow him faster than light reflexes. Which Jean does not have.

Originally posted by ixie
I think the speed of WW isn't going to be a factor. Once she's inside Jean's tk field it's gonna be like moving you moving under water. Jean can do anything that is connected to telekinesis and telepathy since she is an omega level. Plus she can control WW's lasso by wrapping it in a telekinetic shield and moving it around.

Honey, you don't understand the concept of speedblitz. Jean would have her neck broken before she can process a single thought. BEFORE she can raise a shield....

There's no if, ands or buts about it. Jean needs to think to raise a forcefield. Before the electronic signal in her brain reaches the flipping neuron, WW is already pummeling her into a bloody paste.

How about not. Of course the fight will start with Jean's shields up. And there's that tk field thing that's entirely different from tk shield. It's gonna be like swiming in a material as strong or stronger than steel with a 1/4 mile diameter. WW has to pass through those things first before reaching Jean.