Jean Grey vs. Wonder Woman

Started by sese4lyfe6 pages
Originally posted by Q99
She's also lifted city-sized chunks of falling stuff and helped move the moon.

if she moved the moon, why couldnt she barely hold up half of a bridge, and she only held it up for a couple of seconds

Originally posted by sese4lyfe
if she moved the moon, why couldnt she barely hold up half of a bridge, and she only held it up for a couple of seconds

It's called a low showing. Characters are held to their optimal levels of skill, power, durability, etc as per forum rules.

Originally posted by kochtgr
When I am talking about reaction time i mean only the process of thinking not of moving a hand or a leg or whatever which of course takes much more time and thinking its certainly not spontaneous because it requires chemicals and electrical signals to be created first which is a team work of each part of the brain (every part needs to communicate to each other) and then export the outcome of this process, and i am not counting that you must first import the information from the environment!!!

ps: You should first use common sense and not take for serious whatever is written in a "comic"

so you are basically saying WW moves faster than she thinks....I just dont get it

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's called a low showing. Characters are held to their optimal levels of skill, power, durability, etc as per forum rules.

there is no way diana is strong enough to move the moon, you are over estimating her a little bit too much, like seriously

Originally posted by sese4lyfe
there is no way diana is strong enough to move the moon, you are over estimating her a little bit too much, like seriously

She has massive strength feats which eclipse that bridge showing - a showing most use if only to lowball her. She's considered to be one of the strongest physical heroes on DC Earth (with Superman, CM, and MM respectively). Regardless of whether or not you think she can move the moon, her strength >>>> that single low bridge showing.

we should only use her own single lifting feat showings, since team efforts cannot be adequately measured and distributed among the characters

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
we should only use her own single lifting feat showings since team efforts cannot be adequately measured and distributed among the characters

Agreed.

And her single lifting feats she has under her belt are better than that bridge one.

the heavenly chariot that she slowed down?

i am not aware of her single lifting feats.

In RE: Diana and the bridge

People have to remember that this was during Byrne's tenure, and while he high-balled her into divinity (which is where she's eventually heading to again, in one form or another), he was scaling her on a lower relative end of displayed strength, much like how he did with Superman. *Contextually*, the bridge feat was very impressive, given who was writing, and the POV he was taking in terms of expressed physical strength.

And flash runs at the speed of light, so there is no way WW runs faster than the speed of thought.

Originally posted by sese4lyfe
And flash runs at the speed of light, so there is no way WW runs faster than the speed of thought.

😕

The speed of light is much, much faster than the speed of thought...

Or were you being sarcastic?

Wonder Woman.

I blame Bada for leaving this open...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I blame Bada for leaving this open...

😂

No kidding. This is borderline spite.

Preeeeeeeeety much.

Jean Grey ftw. She can just use the Phoenix and kill her. I dont care if it says "No Phoenix" He or she just put that because they KNEW someone would say it and Jean would win. (:

WildShadow
the heavenly chariot that she slowed down?

i am not aware of her single lifting feats.

The chariot is one of them. City-sized and she held it up for several minutes.

Also in JLA/Titans Technis Imperative she lifted a gigantic astroid too, and showed no signs of straining in the least.

Originally posted by Jason97
Jean Grey ftw. She can just use the Phoenix and kill her. I dont care if it says "No Phoenix" He or she just put that because they KNEW someone would say it and Jean would win. (:

Yes that's why it was put there, and that's why Jean loses. Interestingly enough, knowing why something is put there doesn't make it not there.

Originally posted by tideoftime
😕

The speed of light is much, much faster than the speed of thought...

Or were you being sarcastic?

Well, not necessarily, it depends on who is thinking. Not only can speedsters obviously think faster than regular people (and at lightspeed or faster if they can coordenate motion at such speeds) but most telepaths think faster than regular humans too.

Omega Kid generated 10 million thoughts per second, this is difficult to put in terms of linear speed, but if we assume a regular human can come up with a completelly elaborated thought every second and the speed of normal thought is 30m/s like the rules say, then Omega would think at lightspeed.

Subliminal time allows for days worth of thought process in well under a second. Narration in a comic book with xavier once compared the speed of light to the speed of thought and claimed that while c is 300.000km/s the speed of though was simply incalcullable.

Originally posted by Q99
The chariot is one of them. City-sized and she held it up for several minutes.

Also in JLA/Titans Technis Imperative she lifted a gigantic astroid too, and showed no signs of straining in the least.

Yes that's why it was put there, and that's why Jean loses. Interestingly enough, knowing why something is put there doesn't make it not there.

Jean would still own her. Phoenix force ftw.

The Phoenix Force is the only way Jean stands a chance against Diana. Too bad it's excluded from the thread via the OP.

Originally posted by Jason97
Jean would still own her. Phoenix force ftw.

No Phoenix force. That's what 'no phoenix force' means.