Anakin Skywalker Vs Mace Windu

Started by kamikz8 pages

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Sorry, I don't quite understand what you're trying to say, but if I understand you properly, blocking an overhead attack from two attackers with a one-handed grip on a sword involves technique, not just physical strength.

When you look at the set detail and distances, Anakin really didn't 'fly far' Infact, if you check the scene, Anakin actually staggers back slightly before Dooku even kicks him... I suspect that Dooku used the Force to unbalance Anakin (possibly also lift him slightly) to make his kick more effective, but, in all honesty, Anakin didn't go more than a few feet, it's only the change of camera angles that makes it seem like he 'went flying'. As for the time it took him to get up again, you can actually see Anakin smack his head on the wall, so he was most likely lightly stunned. Dooku was not even with Anakin in his saberlock (which relies on physical strength rather than technique), as it was possible to hear the strain in his voice when he said he could sense Anakin's fear.

Absolutely. That doesn't mean Anakin was a better swordsman though, because he did not beat Dooku while they were duelling. Dooku however, had beaten Anakin while they were duelling.

So could you tell me exactly how the technique is done and how it doesn't require exceptional physical strenght?

Oh common I'm watching the scene right now, Anakin flies as hell. How do you post clips here, I'll show you....
If he does it before it is probably just an error in the timing, they can't do everything right and it's not like he does it for real. I've seen plenty of films where a person reacts about 1/2 a second before a punch. Is it a shockwave of a punch???? 😛
Besides, Anakin flew inside the wall, that's pretty far for a kick....

Not in a saber lock? Missed the scene where Dooku tells Anakin about his fear and hate?

I don't argue about the swordfight, just about Dooku's physical strenght. I'm not even in on that part, I just said that I don't think anyone would be able to get out of such a grip in a second or two....

Originally posted by kamikz
So could you tell me exactly how the technique is done and how it doesn't require exceptional physical strenght?

As simply as possible, you swing your blade not into position, but with the intention of continuing the swing, so that the force of your swing cancels the momentum of the incoming blades (although it does not continue, but stops.)

Originally posted by kamikz

Oh common I'm watching the scene right now, Anakin flies as hell. How do you post clips here, I'll show you....

As am I, I have the DVD in my player as we speak. Anakin does not fly anywhere near as far as Obi-Wan was thrown. Yes, he was in the air when he flies into shot, but, Dooku was standing in the middle of the door when he kicked him, so the most Anakin flew was maybe a few feet (and slid the rest when he hit the wall)

Originally posted by kamikz

If he does it before it is probably just an error in the timing, they can't do everything right and it's not like he does it for real. I've seen plenty of films where a person reacts about 1/2 a second before a punch. Is it a shockwave of a punch???? 😛

Sorry, but given the level of digital manipulation in RotS, I don't think that such a 'mistake' would occur, and if Anakin staggered, it was for a reason (ie Force intervention)

Originally posted by kamikz
Not in a saber lock? Missed the scene where Dooku tells Anakin about his fear and hate?

I might have been unclear, my apologies. What I meant, was they were not physically evenly balanced, and that Dooku was straining (which is clear in his voice)

Originally posted by kamikz
I don't argue about the swordfight, just about Dooku's physical strenght. I'm not even in on that part, I just said that I don't think anyone would be able to get out of such a grip in a second or two....

I think that someone close to Anakin's age and strength might have been able to wrestle their way clear, but Dooku was clearly unable to do that due to his age.

Eh, Anakin still won the fight. There's alot more to fights than saber dueling.

Originally posted by Darth Vious
As simply as possible, you swing your blade not into position, but with the intention of continuing the swing, so that the force of your swing cancels the momentum of the incoming blades (although it does not continue, but stops.)

As am I, I have the DVD in my player as we speak. Anakin does not fly anywhere near as far as Obi-Wan was thrown. Yes, he was in the air when he flies into shot, but, Dooku was standing in the middle of the door when he kicked him, so the most Anakin flew was maybe a few feet (and slid the rest when he hit the wall)

Sorry, but given the level of digital manipulation in RotS, I don't think that such a 'mistake' would occur, and if Anakin staggered, it was for a reason (ie Force intervention)

I might have been unclear, my apologies. What I meant, was they were not physically evenly balanced, and that Dooku was straining (which is clear in his voice)

I think that someone close to Anakin's age and strength might have been able to wrestle their way clear, but Dooku was clearly unable to do that due to his age.

English is not my native language, so I have a hard time figuring out what you say here, but here's my guess. If you mean that he stops their progress of attacking by striking, then yes. But they are still pushing against him and he is holding up, Anakin is clearly trying to push his sword backwards but Dooku doesn't budge an inch....

How do you post pictures and clips?

Anakin flies away really high, watch the scene again, Anakin flies unusually high for just a kick. Not only backwards, but upwards as well....

Anakin is stumbling backwards at first yes. I think that is because Dooku had just blocked his strike, or maybe he did something with the force, I don't know, but the thing is that he does not send Anakin away with the force afterwards, he kicks him. Anakin was just about to strike him when he kicked him....

Anakin was straning as well, look at his facial expression. He is having as hard time as Dooku. And the fact that Dooku is the one talking only talks for his strenght, cause he is still able to talk. (And that pretty much takes away your focus).

Not in 1-2 seconds. Especially not if you are not prepared...

So . . . what you're saying is, an average ten year old girl, if she uses the proper technique, can block an overhanded attack by . . . Mr. T? The Rock? Michael Clarke Duncan?

Vious you are a complete idiot.