Originally posted by Darth TrayaHave they ever traveled off of earth? Come on Traya just let the thread die. Nobody's posting here, because we already have a ST vs SW thread, that is dying already.
You've not read the books? Okay, but you've not read the Silmarillion, so you don't get the gist of what I'm trying to say.The Valar are gods, extremely powerful gods. Coupled with the lesser gods of the Ainur, they would WTFpwn everything in their way.
The Valar alone could whip out Star Wars alone. The Valar are Gods. Are you trying to say that the Ancient Sith Lords could suprass the Gods of Middle-Earth I doubt it and have you even heard about the Final Battle?
For those who haven't read the books because they don't have time (don't know how to read) the War of Wrath destroyed much of Middle-Earth. The army of balrogs would rip apart any capital ships. Not to mention Morgoth alone is the strongest Valar and could whip out the Death Star.
Would Force-sensitive people exist on Earth or other Federation worlds?
Maybe, since Padmé has 1 recessive gene out of the 2 required to be Force-sensitive and Anakin, Luke and Leia have both of them. Genetically, Padmé or Anakin are as human as any human in the ST universe. Maybe can James T. Kirk or Spock (old Star Trek) have Force-sensitivity genes.
One exception to that: Shatterpoint (a book featuring Mace Windu) mentions that his species (a near-human race known as the Korunnai) is composed only of Force-sensitive people. In Windu's case, Force-sensitivity is a dominant trait.
Originally posted by ESB - 1138So if they are gods can they be everywhere at once?
The Valar alone could whip out Star Wars alone. The Valar are Gods. Are you trying to say that the Ancient Sith Lords could suprass the Gods of Middle-Earth I doubt it and have you even heard about the Final Battle?For those who haven't read the books because they don't have time (don't know how to read) the War of Wrath destroyed much of Middle-Earth. The army of balrogs would rip apart any capital ships. Not to mention Morgoth alone is the strongest Valar and could whip out the Death Star.
The Valar are gods, extremely powerful gods. Coupled with the lesser gods of the Ainur, they would WTFpwn everything in their way.
Incorrect.
They are angels. There is ONE God in Ea, and that's Eru.
And the Valar have done nothing impressive at all. They were scared by a Numenorean army which pales in comparison to 1/100th of the Imperial Fleet. They're greatest accomplishment was breaking Thangorodrim, which was guarded Melkor's very mortal Orcs (who get picked off by freaking arrows) in a "great" and "epic" battle.
A single blast from the Death Star or a bombardment from a single Imperial Star Destroyer and Valinor, nay, all of Arda goes down, unless the Illuvatar himself gets involved, which is ridiculous.
Seriously, the LOTR world would get wtfpwned in seconds.
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
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The Valar are gods, extremely powerful gods. Coupled with the lesser gods of the Ainur, they would WTFpwn everything in their way.Incorrect.
They are angels. There is ONE God in Ea, and that's Eru.
And the Valar have done nothing impressive at all. They were scared by a Numenorean army which pales in comparison to 1/100th of the Imperial Fleet. They're greatest accomplishment was breaking Thangorodrim, which was guarded Melkor's very mortal Orcs (who get picked off by freaking arrows) in a "great" and "epic" battle.
A single blast from the Death Star or a bombardment from a single Imperial Star Destroyer and Valinor, nay, all of Arda goes down, unless the Illuvatar himself gets involved, which is ridiculous.
Seriously, the LOTR world would get wtfpwned in seconds. [/B]
Tolkien says in his letters that they "might as well be gods" and that's what they basically are. Scared? No, it's the Teleri that flee, Manwe and the Valar do nothing because Illuvatar is going to wipe them out anyway. Breaking Thangodorim? The Valar weren't even there! Only Eonwe was.
So, read up...
Scared? No, it's the Teleri that flee, Manwe and the Valar do nothing because Illuvatar is going to wipe them out anyway.
Actually no. They summon Eru because they would risk destroying Valinor in a battle. The combined might of the Vala could not push back the Numenorean Fleet, or else they would done it and not summoned Eru.
Breaking Thangodorim? The Valar weren't even there! Only Eonwe was.
It consisted of Maiar, who accounts for most of the Ainur. And Eonwe was a Maiar, second only to Sauron in the Maiar power rankings.
I don't see them lasting any time at all unless Eru intervenes.
er..why are people so unconvinced to believe that Melkor ( Full power) would smash Ragnos to the ground, and with Ragnos being the most powerful being in SW, i think SW stands little chance against the Valar.
Thats like saying that we could destroy Angels with nukes, quite frankly that just wouldn't happen.
Originally posted by Blaxican_HydraNow that, that is what I find highly unlikely. Frodo was a loser. I mean he couldn't even kill Smeagle without help.
The valar wouldn't even be needed. Frodo would WTFpwn Marka Ragnos and Legolas would own the AT-AT's the way he owned the mumak in Rotk. This fight would be over in a matter of hours.