Originally posted by Eis
There is no need to believe in "something".
Believing in something is unavoidable; even believing that there is "no need to believe..." is a belief.
Atheism is a belief system.
My experience has been that atheists tell you "believe in yourself" (as if somehow this, and believing in a higher power were mutually exclusive).
Agnostics, at least, IMO, have the most honest approach, if (perhaps) being shy of the most practical approach.
Originally posted by Storm
Atheism is not a belief system. It doesn' t consist of an integrated system of doctrines, beliefs, and ideas that are used to provide guidance and stability in people' s lives.
I respectfully disagree, there maybe no doctrine, but there is commonality. To not choose is still a choice. The range of the atheist’s non-belief is the organized religions they rail against. I see agnostics and atheists as not the same thing. An agnostic dose not know and will not make a stand, were as atheists are making a stand. Therefore, ironically, they are becoming what they fight against. I could be wrong, but only time will tell.
It is indeed nonsensical to call atheism a belief system; it merely defines a single attribute about a person, and that attribute is about what the person does NOT belief in. Christians don't believe in, say the ancient Roman Gods, but if such disbelief had a name, you wouldn't say that was their belief system, would you?
Which means there are still plenty of belief systems that atheists can (and do) have; their philisophical beliefs are not defined by their atheism, that is only one small part of it.
What you are referring to, Shaky, is Humanists. That IS a belief system. It happens to be atheist.
So are Naturalism, Nihilism, and arguably even Buddhism. They are the belief systems; atheism is merely a facet.
The only reason to see atheism as a belief system is because you are defining it as being a group that is against other belief systems; this is an erroneous view. There is no such single group of 'atheists' any more than there is a single group of 'theists'.