Originally posted by Mr Master
Wow it seems the GS dude was shut down, after you let him know where to find the answer he never knew, he disapeared, silento, bafflement of the senses, lol
It's good to be right.long live pre-retcon Beyonder - the most powerful being ever to exist period, on any plane of reality across time and space the multi-verse it'self and beyond.
This questiuon has been pondered upon for a long time and now we know the truth.
Nope it was down to laziness. You should never have opened your mouth. 😉
Originally posted by Mr Master
When I said the IG can only affect one universe at a time, I was clearifying it's scope of power, Beyonder's universe(I never said he was a multi-verse, just that his universe, which he was), contained the accumalated energy of several hundred multi-verses combined).
And as far as controlling multiple realities at once, that's an easy one, he did so when he had total control over our universe and his.
You have no evidence for saying Beyonder has multiversal power. While he may have total control over his own reality and while in 616 he has shown control over it, where has be shown on panel to exercise power over both simultaneously? Thats multiversal power.
Originally posted by Mr Master
But we must remember there wasn't much out there back then, even if he had total dominion over the muti-verse, marvel writers saw it as meaninless to represent that since nothing to interesting was happening across the multi-verse, pocket dimensions had more significance than the mutti-verse back then, nowadays you have characters across all the myriad borders of time and space, which leads to a more interesting story involving these multi-versal areas of space.
Forgive me if im wrong but isnt this all just your opinion? If any of this is stated on panel let me know, until then lets get back to the debate at hand.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And I don't know how you see speculation deriving from what the writer said,
I dont. I see speculation in you extrapolating on what the writer actually said.
Originally posted by Mr Master
A Praying Mantis can kill any cockroach on earth, a lethal killer in the insect world with a length of about 5 -7 inches and tramendous strength in comparrison with it's size, would I be assuming that a Praying Mantis cannot even be noticed let alone kill a Blue Whale?
No, it's common sense.
Now if the 616universe to Beyonder's universe was like a Lion a Cape Buffalo, I would say it's possible considering a Lions state of hunger to make a desperate attempt at attacking a Cape Buffalo and actually killing it.
But I'm sorry when I consider the size diffference between 616 and Beyonder's universe, one must logically yes assume, that it contained more energy to an unimaginable degree.
Just your take on things, one which isnt dismissed or 100% supported by that caption. You need to understand that the line is ambiguous, it is open to interpretation, you cant be so arrogant as to say your interpretation is the correct one over all others. In such a situation you can only say what is suggested by the line. Dont try and treat your OPINION on what the writer said as fact.
With that said i have read back on Secret Wars issue and I have to agree now that Classic Beyonder has to have been beyond the IG 😂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Your not easy, and this is just the IG, I'm gonna have hell in trying to out do HOTU and Phoenix. lol.
As for HOTU its origins have never been officially defined , we only have Thanos’ speculation to go by which isn’t canon. Either way it does have far better feats than C. Beyonder, but with such a lack of information we cant conclusively say how they would fare against each other, any opinions on the matter certainly cant be treated as fact. As for the Phoenix Force it has jurisdiction over Marvels megaverse, as shown in New X-men 154 the avatars survey and perform their work over Marvels entire megasystem. That includes the mainstream marvel multiverse and all realities in Marvel creation. That would include Beyonders universe.