Stranges greatest feat imo is resisting the power of the IG. Take another read of my posts, while admittedly i was wrong to make such a broad statement, anyone with common sense should be able to see it was that event i was focusing on hence its prevalence in my previous posts.
In terms of this thread alot of what youre saying is correct, in terms of Stranges positioning on the hierarchy that should be measured by the character as standard. Feats achieved with Strange employing artifacts beyond his standard equipment do not factor in when weighing up his position on the hierarchy. Stands to reason mate.
Try me CF.My current stance on all things Marvel are well supported both on panel and via bios. Any criticisms i direct at others are over issues i make sure i abide by with my own arguments If you beg to differ then youre more than welcome to take me to task. I await your attempt with baited breath.
So your position on the position of Phoenix is the Marvel cosmological hierarchy is based purely on a plethora of on-panel feats, not a few isolated incidents where a character shows more power than usual? Note I said feats, not discussions of the nature of a power, not conversations with the Phoenix Force, not references made to religious concepts that are unsubstantiated by actions. By the same reasoning, Jean Grey would rank near the middle or bottom of any hierarchy if she is " measured by the character as standard", not by greatest showings and lowest, or by what the character can achieve. All of her children would surpass her in that regard, yet for the longest you had no problem arguing her virtually sitting at the right hand of God. It seems you turn a blind eye when it suits you, but most here already knew that.
And you've obviously missed my point that artifacts can be repositories or conduits for power, and that depends on who created the artifact. Strange can command the Winds of Watoomb, and the Wand and Scroll of Watoomb are artifacts that channel Watoombs power. If Strange uses them in a fight, what's the big deal? The power still belongs to Watoomb, and Strange uses it. It certainly doesn't take anything away from his abilities or accomplishments. It might be different if every other issue there was a new artifact discovered to deal with this unknown, deadly foe, but the vast majority of what Strange uses has been around for years. The notion that he decides to use a particular talisman that he doesn't tote in his pocket all the time to combat a particular threat somehow moves him down the ladder is ludicrous.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Define prevalence. I see a few off-handed comments about the IG, including more about Thanos with the IG than those without.First of all, I never said that I agreed or disagreed with a position of Strange in the hierarchy. I put forth no opinion at all except that feats must be counted because they are what happened. What we think should have happened is irrelevant.
So your position on the position of Phoenix is the Marvel cosmological hierarchy is based purely on a plethora of on-panel feats, not a few isolated incidents where a character shows more power than usual? Note I said feats, not discussions of the nature of a power, not conversations with the Phoenix Force, not references made to religious concepts that are unsubstantiated by actions. By the same reasoning, Jean Grey would rank near the middle or bottom of any hierarchy if she is " measured by the character as standard", not by greatest showings and lowest, or by what the character can achieve. All of her children would surpass her in that regard, yet for the longest you had no problem arguing her virtually sitting at the right hand of God. It seems you turn a blind eye when it suits you, but most here already knew that.
And you've obviously missed my point that artifacts can be repositories or conduits for power, and that depends on who created the artifact. Strange can command the Winds of Watoomb, and the Wand and Scroll of Watoomb are artifacts that channel Watoombs power. If Strange uses them in a fight, what's the big deal? The power still belongs to Watoomb, and Strange uses it. It certainly doesn't take anything away from his abilities or accomplishments. It might be different if every other issue there was a new artifact discovered to deal with this unknown, deadly foe, but the vast majority of what Strange uses has been around for years. The notion that he decides to use a particular talisman that he doesn't tote in his pocket all the time to combat a particular threat somehow moves him down the ladder is ludicrous.
I'll deal wiv this 2morrow. Its been a looong day. 😉