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Hatton's never been a second fighter...Manny, as he said in his interview, just studied Hatton's weakness...which is a low left hand and never moves his head. He went for it and got it. Not to mention you could be the best fighter in the world but if you got hit by that last left you'd be out cold like an average journeyman.

of course, it's easier said than done, don't get me wrong, especially when you're fighting a big fight. still, they're called PRO boxers for a reason. part of being pro is keeping your head on your shoulder when things are going bad.

i'm not expecting everyone to be LaMotta but being dropped with a left hand in round2, to me, points towards some glass in the jaw. true, the left hook's a biatch and Manny hits like a fuker, but look at the old timers and look how many of them took those punches without even flinching?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
you get hit with punches all the time and i understnad it's all part of the game. why i called Ricky 2nd rate is because he fought two rounds with a blatant headhunter and didn't get his act together. if someone's constantly trying to club you in the head, you do two things:
-you guard you head
-and you counter punch to the mid-section

of course, it's easier said than done, don't get me wrong, especially when you're fighting a big fight. still, they're called PRO boxers for a reason. part of being pro is keeping your head on your shoulder when things are going bad.

i'm not expecting everyone to be LaMotta but being dropped with a left hand in round2, to me, points towards some glass in the jaw. true, the left hook's a biatch and Manny hits like a fuker, but look at the old timers and look how many of them took those punches without even flinching?

~Sado

Saying it was a left is null because Manny's a southpaw.

You said he was a 2nd rate fighter before he fought Manny....He'd only ever lost to Mayweather and had destroyed many fighters that are considered top class.

Yeah he should've learned his lesson but 1 bad fight doesn't make you a 2nd rate boxer. He fought and won against many top class fighters.

fought and won against other fighters who couldn't even notice that he never bobbed his head.......and what does that tell you about "top class" fighters today? fought against topclass fighters who couldn't handle a blatant, one dimensional headhunter?
and the fact that he didn't see a left coming FROM a southpaw also says something about Hatton, imo.
once again, don't get me wrong: i'm not suggesting that all boxers suck today but that they don't learn and they don't adapt. that's why they don't improve and achieve the kind of status they can and should. Manny's good great speed and power and he's got determination. that's all the tools for being the best. but he isn't changing his style...or rather, he isn't evolving it (that, i think is a better choice of words). he shoudl body punch more, work a bit on his balance and he drops his shoulders way too much before throwing a big punch. if he takes care of these three things, you're looking at one of the best out there. but he isn't and i've watched him for a whle and i don't like the fact that he isn't.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
fought and won against other fighters who couldn't even notice that he never bobbed his head.......and what does that tell you about "top class" fighters today? fought against topclass fighters who couldn't handle a blatant, one dimensional headhunter?
and the fact that he didn't see a left coming FROM a southpaw also says something about Hatton, imo.
once again, don't get me wrong: i'm not suggesting that all boxers suck today but that they don't learn and they don't adapt. that's why they don't improve and achieve the kind of status they can and should. Manny's good great speed and power and he's got determination. that's all the tools for being the best. but he isn't changing his style...or rather, he isn't evolving it (that, i think is a better choice of words). he shoudl body punch more, work a bit on his balance and he drops his shoulders way too much before throwing a big punch. if he takes care of these three things, you're looking at one of the best out there. but he isn't and i've watched him for a whle and i don't like the fact that he isn't.

~Sado

Marquez just doesn't want to give up. He's already lost to Manny, and he still wants a 3rd fight. Ridiculous!
Looking forward for the #1 Contender's Match: Mayweather VS Marquez! w00t

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This is a fight I'd like to see within the next 3 years.

it's always nice to watch fighters with power AND speed. I don't wanna feel anyone of those blows 🙁

Originally posted by Sado22
it's always nice to watch fighters with power AND speed. I don't wanna feel anyone of those blows 🙁

Me either. I think Khan definitely needs more experience and that's why he wouldn't be able to hold his own at the moment. Although good victories over Barrera and Kindelan (arguably the best amatuer of that weight division and the only reason he doesn't go professional is that Cuba forbids professional sport)

There's talk of Hatton having a last fight against Khan as a UK based fight which would allow Khan the opportunity to fight a top teir opponent. If he beat Hatton then I'd say it'd open up the floor to fight some other highly regarded fighters and if he makes it through them then to be a contender.

I often laughed at Khan when he got put down by the likes of Willie Limond but it was mostly from inexperience and a maybe a slight bit of arrogance and believing his own hype. But I now see it as a lesson that is probably best learned early so as to ground a fighter. Clearly it worked for Manny.

Obviously there are those fighters who didn't need the lesson to be great....Mayweather and Calzaghe for example.

* i watched the fight for the nth time... the last KO left-hand punch connected because Pacman had feinted a right-hand jab...

* he might be a "head-hunter" but it surely works for him and KO'ed Hatton in an astonishing 2 rounds... true, he needs to throw a body punch, but in my opinion, why throw a body punch when you can obviously KO your opponent by punching him in the face?

* it only shows the speed and power of Pacman...

* if Pacquiao-Mayweather ever materializes, my money’s on Pacman judging from their two common opponents… Dela Hoya who was defeated by Mayweather via 12-round split decision against Pacquiao’s 8-round TKO and Hatton by Mayweather’s 10-round KO against Pacquiao’s 2…

* Pacman just continues to prove all his critics wrong… and lets his fists do the talking… 🙂

Manny vs Shane in October

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Originally posted by guy222
Manny vs Shane in October

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Arum denies it.
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Cotto vs Clottey tonight! My money's on Cotto by either late stoppage or UD.

Great fight

Not Cottos best performance but with one good eye, u do what u can. Damn Clottey and his "accidental" headbutts. Wouldve been a different fight had the headbutt didnt happen. Good fight nonetheless.

why was cotto fightng with one eye?
and who won?

Originally posted by Sado22
why was cotto fightng with one eye?
and who won?

They headbutted in the third round. Which was bound to happen with Clottey. After a while Cotto couldnt see Clottey's right hand. Even then, CLottey didnt go for the kill and was too cautious on the last 2 rounds as he didnt do much. That and the fact that Cotto knocked him down at the end of the first gave Cotto the split decision.

heard cotto dropped him with a jab. a jab

Yes it was. It came at the last seconds of the round. It was a surprise since Clottey has an iron chin. Supposedly.

Victor Ortiz got beat up

I've never seen a crybaby like Clottey. Cotto's 1st round knockdown must have really made Clottey piss his pants. He could've beaten Cotto had he concentrated on finishing him instead of whinning and crying about foul stuff that didn't happen. It also looks like Clottey thinks judo is part of boxing.

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