Ion vs. Shaper of Worlds

hmmmmmm, a progeny of a cosmic cube vs a guy who wields the collective willpower of every sentient being in the universe.hhhhhmmmmmmm I SAY!

NO SERIOUSLY HMMMM!

Originally posted by Mider
if parallax could rewrite the universe and fight spectre i put him on a higher petestole then eternity and i do believe he is more powerful and i do believe ion is more powerful or at least as powerful as parallax since they have the same power source.

Eternity is the sum total of existence in the MU. It embodies the principal of life. That humanoid black being you see is Eternity's manifestation of itself to us. It is but a mere blink of it's existence. It's less than a fragment of it's totality. If Eternity were to encounter these Marvel guys in his all, they would literally go insane. They wouldnt be able to comprehend his being. He is beyond comprehension. He and LT are probably the ultimate jobbers. Put it this way, Eternity at will should make light work of ANY bearer of the IG. He should be able to wish the IG itself out of existence. His entirety is beyond it. Eternity=Pheonix Force and PF>Parallax. Heck, Eternity should be beyond the bounds of Spectre.

Eternity>PF (without universe and thus beings there is no collective psyche) otherwise agreed

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
He should be able to wish the IG itself out of existence.

Wouldn't go this far. The Infinity Gems are leftovers of The One Who Once Was and he existed before anything in the Marvel Universe (he killed himself because there was no one else around). The gems are likely as old, if not older, than Eternity.

Yeah I was just being generous...it seems everyone here believes the PF is on par with Eternity. I say she's just below it.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
LOL

Eternity is the sum total of existence in the MU. It embodies the principal of life. That humanoid black being you see is Eternity's manifestation of itself to us. It is but a mere blink of it's existence. It's less than a fragment of it's totality. If Eternity were to encounter these Marvel guys in his all, they would literally go insane. They wouldnt be able to comprehend his being. He is beyond comprehension. He and LT are probably the ultimate jobbers. Put it this way, Eternity at will should make light work of ANY bearer of the IG. He should be able to wish the IG itself out of existence. His entirety is beyond it. Eternity=Pheonix Force and PF>Parallax. Heck, Eternity should be beyond the bounds of Spectre.

Originally posted by Juntai
Eternity should be beyond the physical embodiment of god?

keyword being physical...

and i thought it was 'god's anger' or something along those lines.

unless Spectre can create and re-create the entire multiverse on a whim, Eternity is beyond him.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
keyword being physical...

and i thought it was 'god's anger' or something along those lines.

unless Spectre can create and re-create the entire multiverse on a whim, Eternity is beyond him.

And no, Eternity isn't beyond him.

Originally posted by Juntai
He's done it a dozen times or so on panel.

And no, Eternity isn't beyond him.

evidence?

if he's on par with LT then you're right.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
evidence?

Spectre recreated the universe not the multiverse. By resetting the universe, the universe is still maintained, just changed superficially. all that means is that Spectre's maximum feat is changing what Eternity looks like. What would he do if Eternity commits suicide and then aks his sister to bring him back

Originally posted by Juntai
Crisis on Infinite Earths? Zero Hour? Emperor Joker? Just to name a few.

all I see are words. i want physical evidence. i just want to see Spectre creating and re-creating universes on a whim.

Originally posted by Pepito
Spectre recreated the universe not the multiverse. By resetting the universe, the universe is still maintained, just changed superficially. all that means is that Spectre's maximum feat is changing what Eternity looks like. What would he do if Eternity commits suicide and then aks his sister to bring him back

Originally posted by Pepito
Spectre recreated the universe not the multiverse. By resetting the universe, the universe is still maintained, just changed superficially. all that means is that Spectre's maximum feat is changing what Eternity looks like. What would he do if Eternity commits suicide and then aks his sister to bring him back

ok thanks for clarifying that.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
all I see are words. i want physical evidence. i just want to see Spectre creating and re-creating universes on a whim.

Essentially there must have been some vestige of the universe for him to create anything. Him asking his master to create it is another thing

Originally posted by Juntai
-shrugs- Read a DC book .

no

i guess its all speculation then

Originally posted by Pepito
Essentially there must have been some vestige of the universe for him to create anything. Him asking his master to create it is another thing

basically.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
no

i guess its all speculation then