Ion vs. Shaper of Worlds

Originally posted by Pepito
Essentially there must have been some vestige of the universe for him to create anything. Him asking his master to create it is another thing

Eternity even got captured by Krona[Who pulled the Universes apart at the end of that series?] and had trouble with Dormammu.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
no

i guess its all speculation then

Originally posted by Juntai
Eternity even got captured by Krona[Who pulled the Universes apart at the end of that series?] and had trouble with Dormammu.

Like I said, its only the physical embodiment of Eternity that ever jobs to these guys. Eternity IS. It cannot, not be..unless another Enternity takes its place

Originally posted by Juntai
Yep, I guess so. I'm just making it up.

I know

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Like I said, its only the physical embodiment of Eternity that ever jobs to these guys. Eternity IS. It cannot, not be..unless another Enternity takes its place

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
I know

Spectre can be beaten by Wolverine- Wolverine89898 said so, so it must be true

Originally posted by Pepito
Spectre can be beaten by Wolverine- Wolverine89898 said so, so it must be true

Originally posted by Juntai
😆

LOL

Nah seriously, Spectre is supposedly an analogue of LT so I wouldnt doubt him being above Eternity. But my argument was wether Parallax was above E or not. Which he definately isnt.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
LOL

Nah seriously, Spectre is supposedly an analogue of LT so I wouldnt doubt him being above Eternity. But my argument was wether Parallax was above E or not. Which he definately isnt.

Oh, and to get back on track
Assuming current ION [the one I'm guessing the thread is about] is half as strong as the original time Kyle became ION, then he's >>>> SOW.

Originally posted by Juntai
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Only besides the fact that most DC readers on the forum own at least one of those books and can verify. Hell the guy you were agreeing with a minute ago acknowledged Spectre's creating/recreating the universe/multiverse.

he never said anything about multiverse. stop manipulating peoples arguments.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
he never said anything about multiverse. stop manipulating peoples arguments.

Originally posted by Juntai
Quit being stupid, the point was in the acknowledgement that he did the feats I claimed. I wasn't quoting him or putting words in his mouth. I thought this was over already.

No quit being a petty little *****. He cleary said NOT the multiverse. K sweetheart?

Originally posted by Pepito
Spectre recreated the universe not the multiverse. By resetting the universe, the universe is still maintained, just changed superficially. all that means is that Spectre's maximum feat is changing what Eternity looks like. What would he do if Eternity commits suicide and then aks his sister to bring him back

Now shut up.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
No quit being a petty little *****. He cleary said NOT the multiverse. K sweetheart?

Now shut up.

Originally posted by Juntai
He's failing to acknowledge that DC was still a hypertime multiverse, splitting divergent possibilities from the prime universe, just like Marvel. That's not my bad. However, as stated, quit being stupid, the point was in the acknolwedgement that Spectre did the feats. Curse all you'd like, make an ass of yourself, but that doesn't change anything as far as the comics go. 😉

On the contrary, he was actually refuting mentioned points and pointing out how Spectre is beneath Eternity. Its not that big of a deal. Just quit being a ***** about it. k?

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
On the contrary, he was actually refuting mentioned points and pointing out how Spectre is beneath Eternity. Its not that big of a deal. Just quit being a ***** about it. k?

I wasn't being a dick about it, I thought the conversation was over before you purposely decided to drag me back into it. The point was that he acknowledged Spectre's feats, regardless of his personal interpretation. That's what I was trying to get through to you. Had I quoted him and misquoted or added words to what he said, then I could see your ire, but in this case.... it's just stupid.

Originally posted by Juntai
Spectre's not beneath Eternity though. His feats in and out of combat prove greater. Quit thriving off of speculation of presumed power or importance.

Way to miss the ****ing point. Scroll up to where I said Spectre who is supposedly on par with LT is above E. And it isnt presumption, Eternity's powers are written in stone.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Way to miss the ****ing point. Scroll up to where I said Spectre who is supposedly on par with LT is above Spectre. And it isnt presumption, Eternity's powers are written in stone.

However written in stone it may be, Spectre is a piece of god, and that is something Eternity could never mess with. The Logoz exists even without the universe/multiverse. Even Eternity's presumed importance regardless of crappy on panel portrayals[e.g; jobbing, etc.] is outclassed by those facts.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Way to miss the ****ing point. Scroll up to where I said Spectre who is supposedly on par with LT is above E. And it isnt presumption, Eternity's powers are written in stone.