Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: Round 2, Fight 3- roughrider vs. stormfront13

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How durable is Thialfi?

It turns out he was killed by Fenrer which isnt just any wolf by Fenrer could easily kill alot of the contestants.

Thialfi has the high durability of any Asgardian Immortal. It's rated as superhuman, by the Marvel guide.

7 - Superhuman: skin, bone, and muscle augmented to make it stronger and harder than human; impervious to injury to an extraordinary extent

Some background info on this wolf, who was destined to kill Odin.

History: The Fenris Wolf is a creature of the Asgardian dimension who is said to be an offspring of Loki and the giant Angrboda. It is a huge wolf (usual height 15 feet tall) with human-like intelligence, vast strength and the capacity to change its shape to that of a god or to change its size to that of a real wolf. Before it reached maturity, Fenris threatened Iduna, keeper of the gods' golden apples of immortality, and was banished to Varinheim by Haakun the Hunter. This incident later became the basis for the fairy tale of Little Red Riding Hood. Just as Fenris reached maturity, the Asgardian gods decided it would be unsafe to allow Fenris to roam the land unfettered. They took to playing a game with the wolf to see how easily he could snap the bonds they put on him. Each time they forged a thicker and stronger chain of iron, but Fenris broke them all. Finally Odin commanded a dwarf toe forge an enchanted fetter. The dwarf did so, creating a thin, silklike substance of phenomenal durability called Gleipnir. When the gods entreated Fenris to try to break this binding, the wolf-god sensed that the fragile-looking substance was a trick. Fenris agreed to let him put the bonds around him only if there was a god willing to put his hand in the wolf's mouth as a gesture of trust. If the bonds did probe to be unbreakable, Fenris would bite. Among the gods assembled for this task, only Tyr, the courageous god of war, was willing to make such a sacrifice. he placed his right hand between the wolf's huge fangs as the bonds were put in place, and when Fenris learned that the more he struggled, the tighter the bonds were drawn, he bit off Tyr's hand. The gods then bound Fenris to a rock where he has been kept to this day. It is prophesied that when Ragnarok, the twilight of the Asgardian gods, occurs, Fenris will devour Odin.

I also wonder about Phantazia's range. Maybe Ray should just slam everyone against the back wall with a solid wall of light; that would give the rest of my team enough time to pick off (at least)two of Stormfront's characters; making a four on two. And, I believe Tony will have his force-field on during this, increasing his durability to most attacks.

Originally posted by phillipan
How durable is Thialfi?

It turns out he was killed by Fenrer which isnt just any wolf by Fenrer could easily kill alot of the contestants.

the bio rider posted, and he is going by it a lot, said it was a mere asgardian wolf that killed thiafli.

Some background info on this wolf, who was destined to kill Odin.

prove it, your bio which you are using to prove everything about thifali states it was a mere asgardian wolf, and he was killed in an alternate reality, which is more reason to think it wasn't fenrir.

also wonder about Phantazia's range. Maybe Ray should just slam everyone against the back wall with a solid wall of light; that would give the rest of my team enough time to pick off (at least)two of Stormfront's characters; making a four on two. And, I believe Tony will have his force-field on during this, increasing his durability to most attacks.

from what dizzle and you say about the environment, you make it seem not all that big, and phantazia's range is very far. all of my characters are in a force-field, and phantazia could just make rays powers dis functional and unreliable, so basically the wall isn't doing anything. like i said aurora reacts faster than ray and can rush ray before he knows what's going on, she's definitely fast enough to. tony will get shut down immediately by phantazia, and even if he wasn't, i already proved that vindicator can affect the insides of his force-field. like i said before, most of My team reacts faster than yours. mimic rushes in and slashes thiafli across the stomach, doing major damage to him, taking him out, then rushes to take on horus. aurora flies in right after mimic separating the ray from the rest of the team, and phantazia stays a little behind while shutting down iron-man and making vindicator invisible, so he doesn't know he has an opponent, and vindicator takes him out permanently. then it's 2 against 4, and horus is useless to you because mimic can absorb his energy, and has the durability and healing factor and force-field to shrug off any hit.

Anyone gets too close to Horus, it's stun-paralysis with the left eye.
Keep in mind, Mimic's claws may be metal, but not adamantium. And Thialfi is armoured and fast. He'll get a rake across him, at best.

And just how did the supposed-instant-reacting AOA Aurora, come to be impaled on Kirika's claws? 🙄

Originally posted by roughrider
Anyone gets too close to Horus, it's stun-paralysis with the left eye.
Keep in mind, Mimic's claws may be metal, but not adamantium. And Thialfi is armoured and fast. He'll get a rake across him, at best.

fine, mimic can close his eyes and fight horus. he can still sense him and every movement he makes by sensing him through em fields. thiafli may be fast, but mimic is faster, stronger, and has a better weapon system. trust me, a class 50+ moving at mach speeds would impale thiafli through his body...easy.

And just how did the supposed-instant-reacting AOA Aurora, come to be impaled on Kirika's claws?

she got impaled because she wasn't even looking at kirika, she was looking at northstar. if you can't see an attack, and don't know it's coming, how can you react to dodge it?

Got a point there. Maybe when Mimic's charging Thialfi, and gets shot from behind by Ult. IM with the genetic lock beam, he'll die on Thialfi's sword just as easy. 😉

Originally posted by roughrider
Got a point there. Maybe when Mimic's charging Thialfi, and gets shot from behind by Ult. IM with the genetic lock beam, he'll die on Thialfi's sword just as easy. 😉

iron-man gets shut down immediately, you know this. I have provided scans in my last round where phantazia has shut down machinery without even trying, even very sophisticated machinery. also, electricity messes with tony's suit so he is definitely useless for you when i have phantazia. also, how is the blast going through the force-field mimic has, and whose to say he can't dodge it, i mean he will sense it is coming after all and with his superhuman reaction time and speed he can easily avoid it.

you keep saying that ironman is weak to electricity but havent proven it. You have a scan or bio that says that?

Originally posted by stormfront13
mimic can absorb his energy, and has the durability and healing factor and force-field to shrug off any hit.

where did Mimic get a forcefield from?

i was wondering the same things as scoob and bw. is it phantazia who is prividing the force field? i'm also still unclear on the range of phantazia. why is IM shut down instantly? how far apart are they? is it impossible for IM to stay out of her range and attack with his own long range assaults?

oh, and is aurora DEFINITELY faster than ray? anyone?

oh, and is aurora DEFINITELY faster than ray?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
you keep saying that ironman is weak to electricity but havent proved it. You have a scan or bio that says that?

i don't have a scan or anything, i just know for sure it happened. sorry that it isn't really much, but on the other hand roughrider hasn't proved that he is immune to these attacks anyway.

where did Mimic get a forcefield from?

phantazia, remember he mimicked her powers during prep my last round.

i'm also still unclear on the range of phantazia. why is IM shut down instantly? how far apart are they? is it impossible for IM to stay out of her range and attack with his own long range assaults?

well dizzle said the whole battlefield was three rooms and they were connected by three SHORT hallways. tony is shut down instantly because phantazia will be able to sense that he is there and be able to shut him down, and considering it's only a simple switch of em fields to shut tony down, her range is very far.

is aurora DEFINITELY faster than ray? anyone?

well rider hasn't used ray for anything speed like, but aurora was cut off at around mach 10- during the drafts, so if he's faster to the point it makes a difference, he's over the cap and should be banned.

Ray's flying speed can go to the same cap level as anyone else - check his bio again.
I'll say again, though - Stormfront's counting a lot on aerial speed in this confined area. His characters aren't as fleet on the ground as Thialfi.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Vindicator_%28Heather_Hudson%29

^^her, i just found this wiki bio about heather, it's better than the uxn one i provided.

Originally posted by roughrider
Ray's flying speed can go to the same cap level as anyone else - check his bio again.
I'll say again, though - Stormfront counting a lot of aerial speed in this confined area. His characters aren't as fleet on the ground as Thialfi.

and I'll say this, my characters are only flying their fastest once, which is when they are coming to separate your team. also, aurora has good speed on the ground anyway, which mean mimic would as well. also I'm not really counting a lot on aerial fighting. the only person fighting in the air is aurora, who by the way was trained by Apocalypse on how to fly in confined places.

Originally posted by stormfront13
phantazia, remember he mimicked her powers during prep my last round.

ok.... just for clarification.... whose powers does Mimic have right now?

Yesss...Exiles Mimc is supposed to have Cyclops, Wolverine, Colossus, Deadpool and Aurora. (Though his bio states Northstar, you said earlier he copied AOA Aurora.) Now you say he has Phantazia's power too? I don't know whether you should be allowed to switch powers around once the fight is in progress. Think the mods and other members talked about this in the drafting.
Could be grounds for disqualification. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Scoobless
ok.... just for clarification.... whose powers does Mimic have right now?

It's just that Mimic can only have 5 powers and he isn't able to drop Deadpool's powers, you've had him using:

Colossus-Wolverine-Cyclops-Aurora-Phantazia

with Deadpool that makes 6