DN Luke vs Exar Kun

I love how you dip into irrelevant feat wars to show how Luke can beat Exar, nevermind that all the "emerald lightning" did was stun a slayer for Jacen to hack it up and that Kun isn't exactly a black hole, is he?

Kun can fire blasts from both his hands that rip holes in gigantic sith monstrosities and temple walls. Luke is dicked.

lol.. Luke manipulates black holes.. Kun is dicked..

I love how you come into threads and spout your uninformed, silly opinions.

You're right, luke manipulating black holes is an "uninformed opinion". Another nerd with no common sense.

Erm, it is. You've never actually provided an argument for anything, you've just spouted unrelated stuff. Put your black holes "argument" in context with how he will beat Kun.

I don't know how he will beat kun nor do I know how Kun will beat him. There's too much fanboyism and not enough logic. IKC was listing Kun's force achievements so "manipulating a black hole" would be under that category.

Whilst IKC has provided scans and visual evidence for why Kun will win, you have not provided any evidence...

If you refer to my first post I said my evidence was purely speculation as I haven't read the books nor do I know the exact quotes and I know they exist, but until I find them they will be speculation. IKC has provided scans for Kun beating anyone and everyone and instantly shut down the thought of anyone beating kun

Well, have you provided a reasonable counter to Kun's blasts?

No because I don't know enough about NJO/DN luke to say how he would defend himself. Nor do I understand how you can't consider Luke and his mimbam crystal canon but you can consider Kun and his amulets canon. We also do know that both artifacts made both individuals more powerful.

Perhaps the fact is that TOJT does not contradict the movies. Whereas, SOTME does.

I haven't read it, what specifically contradicts the movies.

SotME contradicts the movies in these ways:

In SotME, Luke confronts Vader, duels him, and beats him. This is contradicted by ESB where Luke gets pwned.

In SotME, he finds the Kaiburr crystal which greatly amplifies Force power. The crystal has mysteriously disappeared from his possessions by ESB and is never mentioned again.

In SotME, he's able to use the Force with some proficiency, whereas in ESB he's barely able to pluck his lightsaber from the ice.

SotME is not canon. QED.

So when does SOTME exactly take place?

Between ANH and ESB.

Wtf? Then why did someone on a few other forums say that the crystal he gets was in either NJO or DN, and when he moves away from the temple the crystal loses power.. This is the same thing we're talking about?

Because there are Luke fanboys in the universe?

The kaiburr crystal is from the non-canon SotME.

Ok. ANd I'm sure you've stated this before, but why can we not assume that Kun became uber powerful from Sadow's amulet and his notes on Sith Magic?

Originally posted by tdtd
Ok. ANd I'm sure you've stated this before, but why can we not assume that Kun became uber powerful from Sadow's amulet and his notes on Sith Magic?

You technically can assume that said things made him more powerful, but you have nothing to base upon how powerful he would have been if he did not have said items, so it's pointless speculation and a moot point.

Also, Kun's amulet blasts are relevant. They can be used to attack an enemy in this case. How is Luke manipulating a black hole relevant? Unless he wants to suck the entire star cluster in with him along with Exar, it's not a relevant point.

Well how effective would those blasts be?

They couldn't kill a spirit in one shot, it took him several shots to defeat Sadow his beast and he admitted himself that he could barely control the blast. Would he able to use it again? Has he ever used it after the fight with Sadow his beast?