Sadow, Revan and Malak versus Kun, Yoda and DE Sidious

I agree

Prove up. Where is it shown canonically that Revan knew those techniques?

Right.. An untrained Leia and unborn Anakin, doesn't say much for "help".

They helped by adding their force power, not through any experience they possessed. You finished not knowing shit about what you're talking about yet?

No but I love how you downplay everyone's achievements and exaggerate Kun's... It's funny.

Again, Rakatan said he shot lightning from the sky and don't use that bullshit ship excuse again i've argued and beaten it a dozen times its impossible that it was a ship.

really choke is a technique that every Jedi can do...

Life drain... actually i'm not so sure on this logic would dictate he knew it along with a shit load of other techniques but nothing to prove it really... But aren't you the one that likes to draw logical conclusions?

No, you've not argued and beaten shit. It is not impossible that it was the ship, it's more than likely that it was. You cannot prove shit from a single quote from a bunch of primitives.

As for choke, sure he can do that.

Drain is unfounded.

Originally posted by IKC
No, you've not argued and beaten shit. It is not impossible that it was the ship, it's more than likely that it was. You cannot prove shit from a single quote from a bunch of primitives.

As for choke, sure he can do that.

Drain is unfounded.

For the last time

He couldn't have used his ship
He couldn't have used other ships
Jedi don't use blasters

He used the force, do you know a force technique besides lightning that can be described as "lightning from the sky" now for crying out load, use some of those logical assumptions you love to use about TOTJ characters for somebody else already.

And frying a few cave-Rakata is impressive... how?

It shows he learned lightning which IKC was arguing... also there were rancors there... That makes it a bit more impressive..

Prove up. Why couldn't he use his ship?

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

"The field disrupted any electronic equipment that approached the Star Forge, causing ships to be caught in the gravitational field of the Rakatan planet. The Unknown World, as it was called, was littered with the wreckage of thousands of years of ships unlucky enough to stumble upon the Star Forge."

And

"This secrecy is further preserved by a powerful energy field surrounding the entire world that can disable any ship's communications and navigational abilities. Over the millennia, the Unknown World has become a technological graveyard, the tropical islands of its surface strewn with the wreckage of ships and cruisers unfortunate enough to have stumbled across the mysterious planet's hidden location. "

Taking from starwars.com and swkotor.com

Doesn't sound to me like they could use a ship... Or communication abilities to contact a ship outside of the shield...

So he didn't fly into the gravitational field.

And Revan could merely have lit a fire or something else, for the ship to spot. QED. You can't prove that it was the Force that Revan used, period.

Originally posted by IKC
So he didn't fly into the gravitational field.

And Revan could merely have lit a fire or something else, for the ship to spot. QED. You can't prove that it was the Force that Revan used, period.

So okay

revan bombed the exact scout party's that he was fighting by either 1.) Not being on the planet. 2.) lighting a fire.

This is just stupid IKC, I would not have thought you would go this low.

Anybody would know that is just bullshit, you allow an assumption on 1 million senators but an assumption on this you disagree with?

So if he wasn't in the shield then he couldn't have bombed them because he didn't know where they were if anybody there was hostile and he sure as hell didn't just randomly bomb the entire planet to ashes to be sure he wouldn't face anybody. So your point is bullshit.

Lighting a fire? Yes i'm sure he would sit down make a fire, thats big enough for people in ORBIT far away from the planet to see... Without fighting off or killing the scout party not to mention the most fact tht the scout party would likely move and the grass had returned there not much later. A fire that could be seen in orbit would have been huge... So as you like to say QED

Or Revan could merely have crashed a ship or shuttle on the planet, fixed it up, and flown it in suborbital altitudes and rained fire upon the Rakatan.

You cannot prove that his attack was a use of the Force. Your only evidence is a single vague quote from a primitive. You have no legs to stand on.

IKC starts losing logic in his arguments when the thread includes Kun

Originally posted by IKC
Or Revan could merely have crashed a ship or shuttle on the planet, fixed it up, and flown it in suborbital altitudes and rained fire upon the Rakatan.

[B]You cannot prove that his attack was a use of the Force. Your only evidence is a single vague quote from a primitive. You have no legs to stand on. [/B]

Did you even read the quotes I provided? He couldn't fly anymore.

And how could he have fixed his ship, without encountering Rakatan?

You want Revan to suck so badly you are becoming an anti Revan fan boy, logical assumptions are allowed for others but not for Revan, even when its far more logical then say Vodo being the grand master of the Jedi Order? Hypocrisy?

Right with all of this stuff, IKC usually has an excuse why something anyone other than Kun did COULDN'T compare to Kun.. And with Kun it's usually "Oh he did this he's a force G-d". It's a Kun fanboy. IKC No offense but Kun isn't as uber as you'd like to believe.

Actually Kun is pretty damn uber...

I didn't say he wasn't, I said IKC makes him look like a force god that is only second to Ragnos

Did you even read the quotes I provided? He couldn't fly anymore.

By that logic, the Ebon Hawk should have been stranded forever on that planet. It wasn't. Your point collapses. QED.

And how could he have fixed his ship, without encountering Rakatan?

Seemed to manage it just fine when he found it for the second time.

You lose. QED. Go to bed.

IKC do you tell people they lose because they lose or because you want to tell yourself that you won a fanboy argument?