Originally posted by Swanky-TunaWell when poeple are facing Juggernaut in Spidey and Venom's power range not much they can do and the writers can't have the main people loose so they have to come up with someway to do it.
Spiderman pushed him into a cement pit. Why he didn't just jump out is beyond me.
Like him leaving Venom or the cement.
Well......aside from Hulk and Juggy combo dominating just threw physical force like none other. I dont want to leave my fellow Venomfan's hanging so Im going to go with an very obsured but somewhat conceivable outcome............... behold.........
Venom due too his past expirance with the two powerhouse realizes they cant win and with a quick Symbitoe to sybmitoe huddle the three decide well why dont we make one kill the other?
Carnage, Toxin and Venom leap onto Hulk like Venom did in the one shot and drive him uber crazy, and further dig into his brain on a molecular level and with Carnages signature nightmare inducing ability they push Hulk into a fury so destructive he tears into Juggernaut somewhat similar to what Onslaught did rips out the jem and bam Jugg's is dead...or not who knows point is they are fighting
Sure some of you may think a symbiote couldnt posse's Hulk but in the what if? it possed him and Thor, and that Carnage has taken over the Surfer. again you may see that as immposible but keep in mind symbiotes are very persausive once latched onto someone, and yes that does include Hulk.
carnage's nightmare ability can be seen in....
"Carnage: Mindbomb"
possesing of Hulk in....
"what if? #4 WI the sybmiote suit had possed spiderman?"
Sybmiotes breaking down to a molecular level can be seen in...
"Venom: Carnage unleashed"
Carnage taking the sufer can be seen in....
amazing spiderman #430 & #431 "Cosmic Carnage"
and What If? #108 "What if the Avengers & Spider-Man fought the Cosmic Carnage?"
just an after thought
obviously what if's are not canon. Carnage took over the sufer in amazing spiderman that example was canon.
Mind resitance dosent make one totally immune, and thats still three to one. One did it in a what If, Im sure three can do it no problem.
Symbiotes are not disease's his immune system cannot possibly recognize them as some sort of virus, and even so they breakdown below a cellular level. his immune system couldnt touch them
juggernaut may not die, thats not the point. point is its now Hulk vs Juggernaut and the host's live
Originally posted by Mider
how does venom hurt juggs again juggs stalemated warhulk a guy who picked up a pyrimid and threw it like a baseball. Juggs cant even be hurt by galactus, even dr strange said it was not possible for him to remove the ruby of cyttorak. Juggernaut doesnt feel pain so why would he be scared of being hit i mean he doesnt feel pain and cant be hurt so i mean shoot him with a tank what does it matter. Does this mercury make venom a warhulk now that he can pick up pyrmids cause i dont see how his strengh can be agumented so highly to even bother juggernaut did you guys see the scans when juggs fought thor. Thors hammer bounces off the guy but oh yeah venom will hurt him. One back hand from juggernaut totally trashed thor into a few buildings it was insane.
Look, we all know Juggernaut can't be hurt. So it doesn't matter who hits him Venom or War Hulk or Galactus. So stop using this argument. This isn't about making Juggernaut a phisical harm. There are always other ways to win.
just to put to bed the whole bridge thing. He can swim without the armor on. The armor throws off the human bodies boyance and sinks him. It would be like you or I tyeing a big rock to our backs and trying to swim.
However, Once he hit the bottom he could walk over to the posts holding the bridge up and either climb them to get back to venom or knock the damn thing down and bring venom to him.
I like the second option.
just thought that the bridge setting should be a go if the venom fans want it because it actually favors hulk and juggernaut. since juggernaut doesn't breath and hulk can breath water now.
Originally posted by outarddwarf
just to put to bed the whole bridge thing. He can swim without the armor on. The armor throws off the human bodies boyance and sinks him. It would be like you or I tyeing a big rock to our backs and trying to swim.
However, Once he hit the bottom he could walk over to the posts holding the bridge up and either climb them to get back to venom or knock the damn thing down and bring venom to him.I like the second option.
just thought that the bridge setting should be a go if the venom fans want it because it actually favors hulk and juggernaut. since juggernaut doesn't breath and hulk can breath water now.
Forget about the bridge. That just was an example.
not really, He does get beat plainly. But from this and many other different scenarios I have come to realize that though we give estimations on these forum, it really isn't up ro any of us who wins. Comic books are to far away from logic that no one can really predict the outcome of any of these fights. Its a work of fiction, no more. There had been to much PIS in comics for anything to really be judged to be judged. Its basically a more adult oriented version of DBZ. I have seen so many arguements in these forums over fictional characters. And many of the fights that come up are ridiculous. I to argue but just for fun and to find information I didn't know before. There really is no way to judge what happens based on logic because the very characters in these forums defy it. Its funny to see people argue over the postion of Precrises characters when in one comic, they move through time, and then in another they fight cowboys, dinosaurs, and school kids. Comics are really undebatable and should be until occurrences. To much as happened that many regard to be PIS,CIS for logic to be applied. My opinion is people are looking for logic in a book where there is none.