Venom, Carnage & Toxin VS Juggernaut & Hulk

Started by diabloman31 pages

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
In some Venom comic, he beats the pants off Venom the first time around and in the second fight he suddenly walks away in the middle of it.
venom beats the pants off of venom ?

no, hes really compensating to avoid the fact that in that three part comic, Juggernaut beat venom the first time but when they fought again venom won and made juggernaut run.

venom didnt make juggernaut do anything... juggernaut did that of his own free will.

Why would Juggernaut waste his time on Venom? besides that Juggernaut would never run unless the person he was fighting was that weak.

Go through the forum. Juggernaut actually got pimpslapped.

Yo I know its PIS but it happened Venom beat Juggernaut. Deal with it. It's a comic book, fiction.

Originally posted by Marcus4600


Yeah, Juggernaut let this happen
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Re: Walking?

Originally posted by Marcus4600

If he's walking, that's a screwed up walk. He's running like a little girl.


Yep, he chose 😆

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6079046
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Look at Superman

Dear GOD, do you people really think Juggy got beaten by Venom in this one? It seems pretty obvious to me.

Juggernaut SAYS, flat out at the beginning, that he's already thinking of leaving. From what I remember, he spent the entire first issue of this ridiculous Venom series pounding on Venom, but the guy's insane, so he kept getting back up. Basically, Juggernaut doesn't want to have to spend even MORE time dealing with this moron. So when the girl he likes tells them BOTH to stop it, he realizes this is his time to leave, and he does. Oh, and this badly beaten juggernaut somehow pulverizes all the cops on his way out--looks more to me like he's happy to leave.

Besides, people were saying it was PIS even when Venom survived the first issue--but a win?? Reeks of SVFL to me.

And regarding an earlier analogy made about how this compares to a 4-year old hitting a grown man in the legs. Sure, you can't hit back, so you just leave, right? Seems to fit here perfectly--Juggy left for multiple reasons, none of which was that the '4-year-old' knocked him out. In the same instance, I might not fight this insanely brave (or crazy) four-year old.....but I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone would claim that I was defeated by him.

On a final note, to those who are complaining about the fact that Juggernaut can't be KO'ed, or physically hurt, so this makes this somehow unfair..... Dear GOD, man, that's correct! Short of bs environmental tricks, like a pile of fast-acting, wet cement just waiting for Juggy to fall in, there really is NO way for Venom to beat him. You're right. His whole power is that he cannot be physically hurt, or, in the case of Classic Juggernaut, even moved in a direction he doesn't want to be moved in. So yeah, you're right, it IS unfair.....there's no way for Venom to win, without PIS.

Which is exactly what we've been saying all along.
Don't say the rules of the fight are unfair, say whoever set up this ridiculous thread was unfair in putting symbiotes up against two of the most powerful bricks in Marvel.

Dude, I have already explained my posts in the page before. Juggernaut loss, thats the point put if you read my post on the previous page you'll understand what was meant.

Originally posted by venomunleashed
Here is another scan of Venom kicking Juggernauts a$$, just click on the photo below.
Yeah this is like figting a child thats kicking your ass
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6054248

Dude there is no way to rationalize it, Venom won, Juggy and Superman lost

Originally posted by Big Sexy
not really, He does get beat plainly. But from this and many other different scenarios I have come to realize that though we give estimations on these forum, it really isn't up ro any of us who wins. Comic books are to far away from logic that no one can really predict the outcome of any of these fights. Its a work of fiction, no more. There had been to much PIS in comics for anything to really be judged to be judged. Its basically a more adult oriented version of DBZ. I have seen so many arguements in these forums over fictional characters. And many of the fights that come up are ridiculous. I to argue but just for fun and to find information I didn't know before. There really is no way to judge what happens based on logic because the very characters in these forums defy it. Its funny to see people argue over the postion of Precrises characters when in one comic, they move through time, and then in another they fight cowboys, dinosaurs, and school kids. Comics are really undebatable and should be until occurrences. To much as happened that many regard to be PIS,CIS for logic to be applied. My opinion is people are looking for logic in a book where there is none.

read this please

THAT IS CALLED CANON

Explain momemts like Slade catching a flash , Or batman survivng a blood lusted Superman. They both are also canon. And so is the Juggy fight. Look how many people Wolverine has beaten. He survived a nuke. Need I go on.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
no, hes really compensating to avoid the fact that in that three part comic, Juggernaut beat venom the first time but when they fought again venom won and made juggernaut run.

Venom didn't do anything in the 2nd fight. Juggernaut didn't want to hurt the girl by killing the guy, as he probably should of in the first fight, she was in love with. For as destructive as Juggernaut is, he's really quite the softy for the ladies as seen in his entire history. It even says in the scan that he doesn't want to be there in the first place.

Secondly, looking at it again, the entire second fight looks like it was written by the Cheat. Unless there's a page missing, that's just terrible. Or maybe drawn terrible. There's no transition. Where is he even going?

And last, this part doesn't really have anything to do with anything, what's up with his arm? It looks like either someone put him in a kimura or they gave him two right arms.

Dude Venom won. Those are how the fight went. Could I argue with you why it happened, hell no, but that was the point I was trying to make.

If you see something other than a loss, your lying to youself. If I showed that to a kid on the street , he will not claim juggernaut won.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
read this please
not really, He does get beat plainly. But from this and many other different scenarios I have come to realize that though we give estimations on these forum, it really isn't up ro any of us who wins. Comic books are to far away from logic that no one can really predict the outcome of any of these fights. Its a work of fiction, no more. There had been to much PIS in comics for anything to really be judged to be judged. Its basically a more adult oriented version of DBZ. I have seen so many arguements in these forums over fictional characters. And many of the fights that come up are ridiculous. I to argue but just for fun and to find information I didn't know before. There really is no way to judge what happens based on logic because the very characters in these forums defy it. Its funny to see people argue over the postion of Precrises characters when in one comic, they move through time, and then in another they fight cowboys, dinosaurs, and school kids. Comics are really undebatable and should be until occurrences. To much as happened that many regard to be PIS,CIS for logic to be applied. My opinion is people are looking for logic in a book where there is none.