Darth Vader vs. Bandon

You mean like he did in ESB...wait he was trying to turn Luke.
Vader destroyed a medic lab just by getting mad.

And is trying to bring to the darkside.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
You mean like he did in ESB...wait he was trying to turn Luke.
Vader destroyed a medic lab just by getting mad.

Whup de do he destroyed a medic lab... zOMG!

yeah, cuz medic labs can fight back. Yoda can lift an X-Wing. Can he beat Bandon with just the force too? zOMG fanboyism!

Originally posted by Hello Friend
^ Why would he crush the son he loves?

Fine, you mean the way he crushed Old Ben?

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
Fine, you mean the way he crushed Old Ben?

Good point. Touche.

Yep, he could only stalemate Kenobi, a Jedi who had been out of practice for twenty years...

The fact is, Bandon is an extremely dangerous Sith Lord from a time of where the Jedi fought the Sith. Bandon's mobility exceeds Vader, and Vader just simply does not have the speed or cabability to deal with Bandon flurrying him with his double-blade.

I'm just wondering why everyone assume's Bandon's force abilities to be crappy?

What oober sith ability did Vader learn that Bandon would not have access to? Choke?

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Yep, he could only stalemate Kenobi, a Jedi who had been out of practice for twenty years...

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Out of practice? So what was he doing for twenty years? And didn't Vader defeat a clone of Maul?

Not canon, infinities series or something makes things up to see possible what ifs... so..

And defeating a clone of Maul and defeating Bandon are two different things, I would rank Bandon a fair bit higher then Maul.

Obi Wan clearly grew stronger in the force (through meditation and tutorage under Qui Gon). I can't see him being worse than he was in ROTS.

Originally posted by Fishy
Not canon, infinities series or something makes things up to see possible what ifs... so..

And defeating a clone of Maul and defeating Bandon are two different things, I would rank Bandon a fair bit higher then Maul.

Yeah but people keep saying Vader is this slow unskilled Sith Lord.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Yeah but people keep saying Vader is this slow unskilled Sith Lord.

Compared to others, yes. Vader isn't as bad as he's sometimes made out to be. But he definitly isn't as good as some people want him to be. Vader just hasn't shown any real skill with that lightsaber of his, or with the force to put him on the same level of Sith Lords that have proven things.

For his lightsaber abilities, I suggest you read either Dark Lord or Purge.

He loses his hand again in one of those, would have probably died if it wasn't for the stormtroopers showing up.

Wasn't Vader "slow" in the OT because of tech? Look at General Grievous who is just like Vader but moves about quickly. Ben was slow in the OT but they didn't use stunt doubles because look at Palpatine, Dooku, and even Yoda in the PT all older then Ben was in ANH.

No, the tech had nothing to do with it.. Vader was just slower then, he also isn't build the same way as GG. GG lost all his limbs Vader didn't... Also they were made in completely different ways.

They may have been made in completely different ways but it is likely that Sidious would have given Vader (his biggest hope) the best suit possible and definitely better than Grievous'.

Would have been logical, there is however no prove for that at all. So we can conclude that he didn't.