Originally posted by Fishy
He loses his hand again in one of those, would have probably died if it wasn't for the stormtroopers showing up.
If he did, it would have been in Purge, which I honestly haven't read. In DL, he owns six Jedi, easily, and is only hampered by the seventh, who is a notable swordmaster.
No, because Grievous' suit design is radically different to Vader's. Grievous lost most of his body, hereas Vader lost his limbs.
Hence, Grievous can have more mobility, because he is mainly a robot. But Vader needs a suit that can interlock into his legs and arms, hence why he isn't as mobile.
Oh and BTW, ANH Kenobi had been out of practice for twenty years. He did not fight any lightsabre wielders and he probably did'nt use his lightsabre for a long time.
I can see him improving in terms of force powers, but not in terms of lightsabre ranking.
Look, Vader is not the best sith lord. He is horrifically limited by his injuries.
Malak could have picked Bandon for many reasons. He had great potential. He could have been very loyal where he wouldn't try to turn on Malak like Malak did with Revan.
It never said why Malak picked Bandon but that doesn't make him the strongest out of thousands. Palpatine picked Count Dooku and we all know Dooku wasn't the greatest PT Jedi/Sith. Palpatine also picked Anakin because Ani had great potential and he was loyal to Palpatine during the PT.
The huge difference there is however that Palpatine had a limited amount of people to pick from, he couldn't just turn any Jedi to his side. It took him years to turn the hot headed and arrogant Anakin, he turned Dooku because felt the end justified the means and because he had left the Jedi.
Malak had far more people to pick from, but you are right, Bandon was very lickely chosen because of his potential. It seems strange that a young man that was to young to join the Mandelorian wars just 3 years earlier would be powerful enough to rule over members of the Jedi Council and god knows how many Sith... Still not entirely impossible. But unlikely.
However Bandon has grown fast, he lives in a martial order and in times of war. He has not yet met his equal in lightsaber combat and many Jedi have fallen under his blade, he has to be good. Beat Vader? Prove of this I have not, however it is very likely.
Originally posted by Fishy
However Bandon has grown fast, he lives in a martial order and in times of war.
Wars not make one great -Yoda
That's something that's been bothering me. (Not you directly Fishy) Why is it that Revan/Malak whoever must be uber powerful because they were in a war(s)? If that was the case Grievous would have been a lot better because his planet was always at war with a neighboring species.
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Wars not make one great -YodaThat's something that's been bothering me. (Not you directly Fishy) Why is it that Revan/Malak whoever must be uber powerful because they were in a war(s)? If that was the case Grievous would have been a lot better because his planet was always at war with a neighboring species.
And he wasn't? He was a great general and fighter.
and wars make one great not in the meaning of Yoda, it does not make one see wisdom or truth, it does not bring out the best in people in many ways, it causes death and destruction and really all that Yoda hates or fights against.
Wars however and more so the threat of a war make army's trained into the greatest state. It makes people go beyond themselves to prove things, to become greater if not just honour and glory then for survival not just of themselves but of the entire republic. The Jedi Order in that day and age had many threats some that could destroy it, some that could have hurt it, these threats made people train, made people fight.
in the PT times the Jedi Order was used to peace, there biggest fights were against a bunch of Mandelorians where many of them died or against a bunch of criminals with blasters, this is not a time where they would prosper. Where there lightsabers skills would become great and where they would be used to fighting people of power. Unlike earlier times where that was the case.
That's why in KoToR some Jedi ran away from a couple of Sith Troopers?
I agree with a lot of things up there Fishy but look how great Yoda is and what we know about Yoda he was in the Clone War and that's the only war we know Yoda was in. Becoming a Jedi would still put you through intense training like it did in the Sith War era. Many call the PT Jedi weak because they basically got defeated in the Geosisian (not sure on spelling) Arena but they were outnumbered like 1 to 1,000.
I don't think living in a time of peace would make the training any easier like Luke said in Jedi Outcast:
"If being a Jedi was easy their would be thousands of us instead of dozens."
Look how well Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon fought Maul. Maul was trained his entire life to fight the Jedi and like you said the common enemy of the Jedi at the PT time used blasters so the Jedi mainly focused on deflecting blaster bolts but is that all they did? Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon gave Maul a very difficult fight proving that the PT Jedi did do saber dueling training.
Obi-Wan was even defeating Maul in one on one until Maul force pushed him into the hole. I do believe some people give way to much credit to the KoToR Jedi just because they were in the Sith War.