Originally posted by tdtd
Eh you're not getting you're boring you're actually quite entertaining. I love quasi intellectuals. And yes i'm citing your bad reading comprehension because it's been continuous throughout this insignificant argument and it's worth mentioning due to the fact that you bring up DE Luke's feats, without(and i'm guessing), actually reading the DE Comics, when it's NJO Luke that's involved. I'm not sure you comprehend the difference between the two, but assuming you can, I will continue to correct your lack of reading comprehension skills.. Btw, you still have failed to show me how Kun is more powerful than NJO Luke or DN Luke. Why stop there though? Why not just put Kun above Nadd, Ragnos, all of the ancient sith, and even Artoo?
No shit, they aren't alike? I wonder how long it took you to realize that? Oh, maybe because I also referenced the NJO series and its events, and its so called feats without context. Or maybe because DE Sidious is in this thread (check the title). You haven't proved a thing, you haven't established anything except that you rival Numan in being wrong consistently.
I already countered that Luke's feats do not put Kun as superior to Luke, and I never once argued that Kun would definitively win this argument. And you're saying reading comprehension? You didn't even understand the very basic point about emerald lightning that w00t had no trouble with.
It's funny, you like to bullshit what I said so you can "win" this debate and "prove" stuff.
Good job, troll.
Yes, I'm a "quasi-intellectual," so I guess that makes you a "pseudo-retard."
Originally posted by Illustrious
No shit, they aren't alike? I wonder how long it took you to realize that? Oh, maybe because I also referenced the NJO series and its events, and its so called feats without context. Or maybe because DE Sidious is [b]in this thread (check the title). You haven't proved a thing, you haven't established anything except that you rival Numan in being wrong consistently.I already countered that Luke's feats do not put Kun as superior to Luke, and I never once argued that Kun would definitively win this argument. And you're saying reading comprehension? You didn't even understand the very basic point about emerald lightning that w00t had no trouble with.
It's funny, you like to bullshit what I said so you can "win" this debate and "prove" stuff.
Good job, troll.
Yes, I'm a "quasi-intellectual," so I guess that makes you a "pseudo-retard." [/B]
Hmmm... When you constantly refer to Luke's biggest feat is defeating an "aging and dying body", you're talking about DE Luke, not DE Sidious, and certainly NOT NJO Luke. Bravo on the reading comprehension though. You're right I haven't proven anything, all i've been doing is constantly asking you to prove something which you haven't, yet you just respond with "No, YOU prove it". Nice logic and quite mature of you. Also your denial doesn't make me "consistently wrong like Numan". And then the predictable namecalling... Your argument has been reduced to petty namecalling, denial, and a lack of reading comprehension skills.. Way to go Illustrious, bravo champ.
Btw I can admit when I'm a troll, but when I do read something or know something, I can easily rile you or anyone up without the slightest difficulty.
NJO Luke's greatest feat of relevance, is perhaps his feat of destroying an army of Vong with a lightsaber, however, Luke has not tooled revered force users of his time, he had no equal, neither did he have much to test him, Kun tooled the strongest of the Jedi Order in his time, drained the lifeforce of all the Massassi, and froze hundreds and thousands of people, now unless you can display feats the LUKE has accomplished and not anyone else, that equal that, then ok, however to my knowledge the best of Kun and best of NJO Luke, means Kun > NJO Luke. Thats if you're playing feat wars tdtd.
Hmmm... When you constantly refer to Luke's biggest feat is defeating an "aging and dying body", you're talking about DE Luke, not DE Sidious, and certainly NOT NJO Luke.
Since when did I refer to that as his "biggest feat."
You're the one that needs reading comp help.
Bravo on the reading comprehension though.
Yup, considering the premise you attacked me on is poor reading comprehension on your part, I'm sure you have a lot to stand on.
You're right I haven't proven anything, all i've been doing is constantly asking you to prove something which you haven't, yet you just respond with "No, YOU prove it". Nice logic and quite mature of you. Also your denial doesn't make me "consistently wrong like Numan"
Really? Is that why I established that you have no context, while I already listed that Kun's victories are more impressive because they've come against actual trained force-users?
Oh yeah, selective hearing, awesome.
And then the predictable namecalling... Your argument has been reduced to petty namecalling, denial, and a lack of reading comprehension skills.. Way to go Illustrious, bravo champ.
Where have I denied anything?
Yay, I deny stuff because tdtd decides to say so! If anything, you're the one in denial because you say logic can't be applied to versus matches.
"Jar Jar beats Marka and DN Luke simultaneously!"
Btw I can admit when I'm a troll, but when I do read something or know something, I can easily rile you or anyone up without the slightest difficulty.
Don't you mean that you can make yourself look like an idiot while you entertain me for the 2.3 seconds of your worth?
Show me where I was even remotely riled up? Oh wait, it's tdtd's idea of "reading comprehension" right?
But wait, this is redundant! Tdtd will come back with something proclaiming how he's been right this whole time, including a bunch of supportive pseudo-evidence and illogical jargon!
[/salesman pitch]
(Hint: this is your time to stop posting, if you were smart, before you prove me right yet again 😉.)
Originally posted by Illustrious
Since when did I refer to that as his "biggest feat."You're the one that needs reading comp help.
Yup, considering the premise you attacked me on is poor reading comprehension on your part, I'm sure you have a lot to stand on.
Really? Is that why I established that you have no context, while I already listed that Kun's victories are more impressive because they've come against actual [b]trained
force-users?Oh yeah, selective hearing, awesome.
Where have I denied anything?
Yay, I deny stuff because tdtd decides to say so! If anything, you're the one in denial because you say logic can't be applied to versus matches.
"Jar Jar beats Marka and DN Luke simultaneously!"
Don't you mean that you can make yourself look like an idiot while you entertain me for the 2.3 seconds of your worth?
Show me where I was even remotely riled up? Oh wait, it's tdtd's idea of "reading comprehension" right?
But wait, this is redundant! Tdtd will come back with something proclaiming how he's been right this whole time, including a bunch of supportive pseudo-evidence and illogical jargon!
[/salesman pitch]
(Hint: this is your time to stop posting, if you were smart, before you prove me right yet again 😉.) [/B]
Dictionary.com Denial. Haven't you embarassed yourself long enough? Yes, you seemed riled up. W00t I don't argue about NJO Luke being inferior to Kun because maybe he is. Illustrious you've listed a few feats, and I've listed 30 or 40 a few threads ago which were more impressive. What's that? OH yes, "selective hearing" as you call it. Now maybe you should stop telling yourself that I look like an idiot when you can't read, nor understand what you write.. And you never said DE Luke's biggest feat, but since that's the only one you mention it's the only noteworthy one, therefore the biggest one to your knowledge. Try again champ.
Yes, I "seem" riled up 😉. Is that why I'm laughing at you?
In that case, you "seem" retarded.
Illustrious you've listed a few feats, and I've listed 30 or 40 a few threads ago which were more impressive. Now maybe you should stop telling yourself that I look like an idiot when you can't read.
And you didn't put them in any form of context.
Kun owning trained force masters > Luke owning non-force useres who collectively ran away from the Empire.
Just for your information, yes that's more effective than going "Luke controls black hole, he wins."
And you never said DE Luke's biggest feat, but since that's the only one you mention it's the only noteworthy one, therefore the biggest one to your knowledge.
Are you serious?
ROFLMFAO. "You only mentioned 30 or 40 feats for Luke, I guess that's all you know."
Now you making up shit to try to indict me with while you completely forgot how I listed feats from NJO and DN for Luke, which of course, you are completely ignorant to.
Yes, slugger, back to the dugout.
(Guess you didn't take my hint. If you noticed, I'm actually trying to be nice here so you don't look like too much of a moron.)
Originally posted by Illustrious
Yes, I "seem" riled up 😉. Is that why I'm laughing at you?In that case, you "seem" retarded.
And you didn't put them in any form of context.
Kun owning trained force masters > Luke owning non-force useres who collectively ran away from the Empire.
Just for your information, yes that's more effective than going "Luke controls black hole, he wins."
Are you serious?
ROFLMFAO. "You only mentioned 30 or 40 feats for Luke, I guess that's all you know."
Now you making up shit to try to indict me with while you completely forgot how I listed feats from [b]NJO
and DN for Luke, which of course, you are completely ignorant to.Yes, slugger, back to the dugout.
(Guess you didn't take my hint. If you noticed, I'm actually trying to be nice here so you don't look like too much of a moron.) [/B]
I look like a moron? Is that what you keep telling yourself? You claim to laugh at my text while I can only shake my head and think to myself, "What a moron". I didn't say YOU didn't list any feats, I said I listed feats. Again, way to read.. Must be that "selective hearing" again. Wait wait, Kun owning trained force masters > Luke owning non-force useres who collectively ran away from the Empire.... Have you read NJO? I didn't think so. So in other words you don't know if Luke owned force masters? Didn't think so. You're getting more childish and embarassing with each thread. I suppose Kun's draining of the Massassi warriors is somehow greater than Luke slashing through an army that wasn't of the force? You should stop being so nice to me, and start being smarter.
I look like a moron? Is that what you keep telling yourself? You claim to laugh at my text while I can only shake my head and think to myself, "What a moron".
Yes, because in your mind, you "can't apply logic to imaginary events."
In that case, I'd be glad that you think I'm a moron, because clearly things are very different in your warped opinion.
I didn't say YOU didn't list any feats, I said I listed feats. Again, way to read.. Must be that "selective hearing" again.
Uhh... point out where I said I didn't list feats?
Right....
Wait wait, Kun owning trained force masters > Luke owning non-force useres who collectively ran away from the Empire.... Have you read NJO? I didn't think so.
Oh no, I'm the "nerd" that didn't read NJO. So you did, you post more than I do, and you have room to throw insults, uh huh.
So in other words you don't know if Luke owned force masters? Didn't think so. You're getting more childish and embarassing with each thread. I suppose Kun's draining of the Massassi warriors is somehow greater than Luke slashing through an army that wasn't of the force? You should stop being so nice to me, and start being smarter.
Okay, show me which trained force-user Luke beat in NJO (that he didn't train himself and that was halfway near decent.).
I've been asking for you to support your opinion all day, all you've done is throw childish insults without any supporting evidence. But wait, I'm verbally fellating Kun because I disagree with your belief that NJO Luke owns him.
Except, that apart from Luke who began the trend of training Jedi's, after ROTJ, there haven't exactly been challenges for him, anyone he trains he will know well, its a case of "I taught you everything you know, but i didn't teach you everything i know."
Except Draining an entire race, seems much more impressive that hacking away through an army, logically, Kun could just as easily replicate Luke's feat, however Luke replicate his? Unlikely. Kun as you know, invent his own style and his own double-blade lightsaber, he can wield it with extreme speed and he tooled a Jedi Master who is arguably the Grand Master, and having trained for 600 years is certianly no noob with a lightsaber/ stick.
Luke is simply depicted as a force god in Post ROTJ times, there is no evidence to show that he could do much of them on a force user than he did not train. He was the Grand Master, and he began training Jedi, so he most likely would know what his students do.
Except, that apart from Luke who began the trend of training Jedi's, after ROTJ, there haven't exactly been challenges for him, anyone he trains he will know well, its a case of "I taught you everything you know, but i didn't teach you everything i know."
Exactly, too bad tdtd will never quite grasp this concept.
Except Draining an entire race, seems much more impressive that hacking away through an army, logically, Kun could just as easily replicate Luke's feat, however Luke replicate his? Unlikely. Kun as you know, invent his own style and his own double-blade lightsaber, he can wield it with extreme speed and he tooled a Jedi Master who is arguably the Grand Master, and having trained for 600 years is certianly no noob with a lightsaber/ stick.
Again, goes with the owning trained force-users > owning non-force users.
Luke is simply depicted as a force god in Post ROTJ times, there is no evidence to show that he could do much of them on a force user than he did not train. He was the Grand Master, and he began training Jedi, so he most likely would know what his students do.
Wow, watch how much different his response will be to your post, when I said the exact same thing.
That's tdtd logic for ya.
I agree with that W00t. Was Raynar in DN because i'm not sure. Illustrious for the last time, I retracted my previous statement and revised it, so I don't know why you keep posting you "can't apply logic to imaginary events." Secondly, what are these insults you speak of? Now, where did I say you DIDN't list feats? What in the hell are you talking about? In fact where in the hell did you say you didn't list feats? Again what are you talking about bro? And where did I ever say NJO Luke would own Kun? You REALLY need to improve your reading comprehension skills, because you're just getting ridiculous, it's borderline sad. You know what though, I'm just going to assume that it's late wherever you are and you're not reading what you're typing, or looking at what you're typing, or reading at what you've typed, and that your reading comprehension skills are fine.
Originally posted by tdtd
I agree with that W00t. Was Raynar in DN because i'm not sure. Illustrious for the last time, I retracted my previous statement and revised it, so I don't know why you keep posting you "can't apply logic to imaginary events." Secondly, what are these insults you speak of? Now, where did I say you DIDN't list feats? What in the hell are you talking about? In fact where in the hell did you say you didn't list feats? Again what are you talking about bro? And where did I ever say NJO Luke would own Kun? You REALLY need to improve your reading comprehension skills, because you're just getting ridiculous, it's borderline sad. You know what though, I'm just going to assume that it's late wherever you are and you're not reading what you're typing, or looking at what you're typing, or reading at what you've typed, and that your reading comprehension skills are fine.
Here's the newsflash:
I didn't say I didn't list feats.
You are putting words in my mouth, obviously as a byproduct of your ignorance, and attempting to indict me for your mistakes. It's rather obvious too.
If you agree with what w00t said, how come you didn't agree with me when I said the same thing? LMAO.
Oh, my bad, I forgot I should speak in more AOLese for proper understanding.
And yay, for attacking someone's knowledge and then turning around and saying you didn't know if Raynar was in DN or not is rather stupid. Raynar was Luke's former student and the baddie of DN.
Because W00t has a point while you keep embarassing yourself with your so called logic.
Uhh... point out where I said I didn't list feats?
^Hmm I wonder who said that... What? Your reading comprehension skills have hit rock bottom? Thought so... Try again.
Speak in more AOLese? You mean you haven't been doing that already with your "pwnage"? When did I attack your knowledge? I simple "deduced" that you haven't read the novels... What on earth are you talking about.. Here's a quick lesson for you..
1. Think
2. Type
3. Repeat
Because W00t has a point while you keep embarassing yourself with your so called logic.
Really, I posted the exact same stuff that he said.
Except, that apart from Luke who began the trend of training Jedi's, after ROTJ, there haven't exactly been challenges for him, anyone he trains he will know well, its a case of "I taught you everything you know, but i didn't teach you everything i know."
Oh how about him tooling Jedi Masters that actually had someone to learn from ... Luke is uber because ... he can beat a bunch of people he trained.
Don't see a resemblence? Reading comprehension?
Uhh... point out where I said I didn't list feats?^Hmm I wonder who said that... What? Your reading comprehension skills have hit rock bottom? Thought so... Try again.
Did you not notice that it was in response to this?
I didn't say YOU didn't list any feats, I said I listed feats. Again, way to read.. Must be that "selective hearing" again.
I never said anything about listing feats at all. I said put your feats in relevant context. You have not done so. I have. QED.
Speak in more AOLese? You mean you haven't been doing that already with your "pwnage"? When did I attack your knowledge? I simple "deduced" that you haven't read the novels... What on earth are you talking about.. Here's a quick lesson for you..
1. Think
2. Type
3. Repeat
And I deduced that you don't have a brain. You've been simply throwing valid arguments because you don't agree with them. W00t and I posted the same thing, yet somehow, because he presents them in a more basic form without you needing to infer, he's correct.
OH yeah, I'm still waiting for you to make a case for Luke.
I'm not making a case for Luke, because you've still not shown how Kun's feats would tool NJO Luke. W00t explanations were short and concise, and he didn't have to embarass himself while doing it. Your responses have been nothing short of comical and ludicrous. I've already stated that Luke's feats are more impressive but they don't show how he would win in a fight against Kun. Even with emerald lightning, there is no evidence to show Kun can't stop it, nor is there evidence to show Luke can't stop Kun's blasts. Kun defeating Vodo and an aging Odan Urr does NOT make him more impressive, so if you want to make a strong case for Kun, use different examples..
I'm not making a case for Luke, because you've still not shown how Kun's feats would tool NJO Luke. W00t explanations were short and concise, and he didn't have to embarass himself while doing it. Your responses have been nothing short of comical and ludicrous.
We made the exact same argument. Read again.
Reading comprehension, remember?
I've already stated that Luke's feats are more impressive but they don't show how he would win in a fight against Kun. Even with emerald lightning, there is no evidence to show Kun can't stop it, nor is there evidence to show Luke can't stop Kun's blasts. Kun defeating Vodo and an aging Odan Urr does NOT make him more impressive, so if you want to make a strong case for Kun, use different examples..
Yet you always agree with anyone that says Luke would beat Kun, but anyone who argues that Kun can beat Luke is verbally fellating him.
Uh huh. Do you have more hypocrisy to throw at me?
Reading comprehension huh? Why don't you show me where I have agreed that ANY version of Luke under DN, would defeat Kun in a 1 on 1 battle? WHat's that, you can't? Didn't think so. You're not a bad guy Illustrious but you should admit that I can argue quite well even when I know very little of what I'm talking about🙂
Why don't you show me where I have agreed that ANY version of Luke under DN, would defeat Kun in a 1 on 1 battle? WHat's that, you can't?
Originally posted by tdtd
Ok in that case NJO Luke owns bye
Originally posted by tdtd
This is an overkill on Kun, that's obvious
Originally posted by tdtd
Good points, for me I don't think Kun is better than NJO Luke and adding DE Sidious is an overkill.
You were saying?