Poll
9%
76%
15%
What's more important? Stopping Abortion or stopping poverty?
I figured it was a good time to make this topic considering the narrowness of the Abortion thread. Do you agree that these two issues are important? Is one more important than the other? Are they equally important?
As a socially responsible societydo we place top much emphasis on certain topics while altogether ignoring others? Discuss.
I'm against both of them... Stopping poverty is a nice idea but will in fact ruin human society as we know it... Making the world more prosperous in all places is a nice idea though, and probably an okay thing to do. But we must always have poor people simple as that.
I'm also pro-choice, so I don'tthink stopping abortian is a good thing either. So making poor communities a bit richer, or at least giving them schools water food healthcare and a possible future ranks way higher in my lists.
Originally posted by Fishy
I'm against both of them... Stopping poverty is a nice idea but will in fact ruin human society as we know it... Making the world more prosperous in all places is a nice idea though, and probably an okay thing to do. But we must always have poor people simple as that.
that comment is frightening
Originally posted by Deano
that comment is frightening
Well sorry but human society requires that some people suffer for others to prosper, without evil there can be no good. Without poor people there can be no rich people. Without rich people our social structure collapses. Get the point? Sure we can try to make there lives better, but to trully stop people from being poor is an illogical thing to do.
Giving everybody the minimal things required for a good live is a good idea, but I don't really consider that stopping poverty as it will still be there. Just heavily limiting it.
Originally posted by Fishy
Well sorry but human society requires that some people suffer for others to prosper, without evil there can be no good. Without poor people there can be no rich people. Without rich people our social structure collapses. Get the point? Sure we can try to make there lives better, but to trully stop people from being poor is an illogical thing to do.Giving everybody the minimal things required for a good live is a good idea, but I don't really consider that stopping poverty as it will still be there. Just heavily limiting it.
ever thought that human society is the whole problem? because it suits those in power?
You don’t deserve to live in poverty or pain. No one does. We are all of equal worth, value, and potential. So why are you creating poverty and pain? I don’t care who you are, you are an incredible, astonishing, aspect of God. Express that infinity and your life will reflect that. See yourself as small, insignificant, an “ordinary” man and woman in the street, and you will be. You can see life as a series of problems or a series of solutions. It’s a choice and the lives those states of mind create will be very different.In truth the interest system creates poverty and inequality and allows the
accumulation of global power. Tell me this: what would happen if, instead of borrowing non-existent money from the private banking network, our governments printed their own money interest-free and lent it to the people interest-free with perhaps a very small one-off fee to cover administration costs? Would we no longer be able to buy all we need? Yes, of course we would, and far more easily because the cost of everything would be less. The cost of a mortgage would plummet by two-thirds if you no longer had to pay interest. The homeless could be housed and we would not have the grotesque sight of people sleeping rough in the streets because they cannot gather together enough pieces of paper or non-existent computer figures to pay for a proper shelter. Money would become what it was meant to be, a means of exchanging contributions to the community which smooths out the limitations of barter. It is only when you have interest on money that it becomes the vehicle for control which is used with such devastating effect today. No-one gains from the payment of interest, except the banks of the Global Elite.The whole banking system is based on a fraud of stunning proportions to control and suppress the people. There is nothing wrong with having a unit of exchange and calling it money. That is not my point. It is that once you have private banks owned by the same people creating the exchange out of nothing, and charging interest to do so, you have all you need for global tyranny. This is what we have and it has been installed because the same families that control the banks alsocontrol the politicians that pass the banking laws.
In 2004, Children in Need raised £17 million during the evening from
donations and fund-raising events across the country. In 2003, more than £90 million worth of missiles, bombs and ammunition was fired by British forces in the first 11 days of the Iraq war. America is another country plagued by poverty and basic need and yet estimates by the National Priorities Project using official records said that by the start of 2005 the cost of the war had exceeded $152 billion (see costofwar.com for details). All this in a world in which, as the UN reported in 2004, a child dies of hunger every five seconds.Money' is only figures moving around computer screens and we can create as much or as little as we choose. It's another illusion within the illusion, another subplot in the movie. We have poverty through lack of money when there is no money, and we have people living in mansions through ownership of something that doesn't exist. Yet we spend our lives trying to acquire more and more of the stuff and those with lots of it are given special status. You have got to bloody laugh.
The Illuminati have hijacked the means of exchange by introducing the money fraud. As a result, they have hijacked the dreams of the people - which are largely related to the need for money to achieve what they want, or have money as the end in itself. One of the main reasons the Illuminati have targeted the formerly selfsufficient 'Third World' countries is to destroy their self-sufficiency and make them dependent on money. Once achieved, he who controls the money controls the country and its people through dependency on their means of worthless exchange.
SEE THE PROBLEM?
The world does not have to be in poverty and conflict, it is manipulated to be that way because it serves the Agenda. and if people keep telling me otherwise, the more i will lose faith in ''humanity''
Originally posted by Deano
ever thought that human society is the whole problem? because it suits those in power?SEE THE PROBLEM?
The world does not have to be in poverty and conflict, it is manipulated to be that way because it serves the Agenda. and if people keep telling me otherwise, the more i will lose faith in ''humanity''
No, because its just human nature.
because its a spinoff thread. you cant compare the two equally, and inevitably the thread becomes another abortion for or against thread, since nobody is 'for' poverty. i mean, anyone can say "i think poverty is more important" but after that point it will certainly shift toward why they feel for/against a womans reproductive rights, since everyone can agree that poverty sucks to a point where there is no yard stick to measure the suck.
...although i think they were pretty harsh in their criticism of the thread.