Insisting that poverty is a requirement for richness is just plain idiocy.
Someone please present some arguments in favour of that, please?
There is plenty of wealth in the world, we just need to distribute it fairer. But hey, as long as the rich get richer and greedier, they won't do it willingly.
Saying that "this will never change" because right now, this day, we can't see how it should be done, is not an argument. 300 years ago the aristocracy squirmed at the thought of every man voting - WHAT, a common peasant? Voting?? A 100 years ago it was, what, women, voting? Nah, ridicilous...
A woman's right to choose what happens to her body, is FUNDAMENTAL for freedom and democracy. Without that right, you, YES you, the self-proclaimed holier-than-thou anti-abortionist, is trying to take away a basic democratic freedom! Shame on you!
If you want to live in a feudal state, where the STATE decides over the womans body, go move to some backwards feudal state, and take your medival opinions with you. If you want to stay, then by all means live by your own word, and stop forcing your world-views on others! THAT's facism! Both Hitler and Mao told people in their countries to spawn as many kids as thet could!! (With the result in China being, that they had to enforce a one-child policy so there would be food enough and resources enough for everyone).
Me? I'm for freedom and democracy!!! And I don't even think having kids should be a right!! Not every person who has a child SHOULD!
Me? I care for the people who have been BORN! Who're wanted by their parents, who are someones friend, mother, father, brother, sister...
Care, for crying out loud, for those who live.
A fetus never ASKED you to speak on its behalf! You're forcing your ideas on someone who can't even tell you, to shut up.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
How does a government benefit from abortions?
Abortions promote the capitalist agenda, women pay money to have abortions, that's puts money in doctor and the state's pockets. Perhaps more to the former, but that's irrelevant, the goverment wants there to be doctors and crap for just this reason, so we all work for them, do thier dirty work for them, and run around in circles with the illussion that is a free market..
This is what your post stated:
Originally posted by Hack Benjamin
However, neither will seise, the goverment bennefits from both far too much..
So, my question was obviously pertinent. Then there's this:
Originally posted by Hack Benjamin
Abortions promote the capitalist agenda, women pay money to have abortions, that's puts money in doctor and the state's pockets. Perhaps more to the former, but that's irrelevant, the goverment wants there to be doctors and crap for just this reason, so we all work for them, do thier dirty work for them, and run around in circles with the illussion that is a free market.
How can you even begin to be taken seriously when you state something like this? 'Abortions promote the capitalist agenda' is one of the most laughable things I've ever read on this web-site. The Bush administration is trying to restrict the availability of abortions, so how on Earth did you come to your preposterous conclusion?
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
This is what your post stated:So, my question was obviously pertinent. Then there's this:
How can you even begin to be taken seriously when you state something like this? 'Abortions promote the capitalist agenda' is one of the most laughable things I've ever read on this web-site. The Bush administration is trying to restrict the availability of abortions, so how on Earth did you come to your preposterous conclusion?
No, wait, he's a hypocrite. Let's give gim a chance to go back on what he said.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
How can you even begin to be taken seriously when you state something like this? 'Abortions promote the capitalist agenda' is one of the most laughable things I've ever read on this web-site. The Bush administration is trying to restrict the availability of abortions, so how on Earth did you come to your preposterous conclusion?
And the liberal capitalist goverment doesn't like that one bit, he's the Morpheous to thier matrix.. you can (once again) start your petty flames all you want, but what idiot WOULDN'T asscosiate abortions with capitalism?
Immagine, if everyone was smart enough and had enough self-control to wait untill marriage before having sex.
Where would the condom industry go?
Birth control pills?
The morning after pill?
Our economy relies on people being immoral, the goverment isn't stupid, they'll find ways to get the most bennefit out of total lack of regard for anybody else, they're ingenious enough to use society's selfishness to thier advantage, and you're so busy caring about your pitiful illussions of "freedom" that you don't notice how much the goverment has control over you. Freedom isn't about having the choice to kill a fetus..
Bush sees that, and Bush is trying to change that, check your history books sometime, it's always been the "conservatives" who have fought for freedom and democracy. Religous whackos? Maybe, but I'd feel safter at night with some God obsessed redneck protecting me with his boomstick, then some ego-maniac liberal who'd molest me with a chainsaw for a buck..
Originally posted by Hack Benjamin
Why do you think everyone hates Bush so much? He's a rebel, a reckless, air-head, rebel, he's a true American..And the liberal capitalist goverment doesn't like that one bit, he's the Morpheous to thier matrix.. you can (once again) start your petty flames all you want, but what idiot WOULDN'T asscosiate abortions with capitalism?
I read up to here, but then I couldn't go on for tears in my eyes. No, Hick, they weren't tears of sadness, although I do pity you.
Hick? You know, unless I'm mistaken, education is proven in a person by the manner of respect and ability to eliquintly speak to other's, not just in how much they know, we all know something.
And for someone that is so educated, you act like a barbarian.. Now, I know you're not use to treating people with respect, because you're a bully, and it's obviously been working for you here so far, but not with me, so please, stop..