What's more important? Stopping Abortion or stopping poverty?

Originally posted by meep-meep
I figured it was a good time to make this topic considering the narrowness of the Abortion thread. Do you agree that these two issues are important? Is one more important than the other? Are they equally important?

As a socially responsible societydo we place top much emphasis on certain topics while altogether ignoring others? Discuss.

I think it's better to deal with the unfortunate children already living here than worry about forcing mothers into bringing in more unfortunate children.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I think it's better to deal with the unfortunate children already living here than worry about forcing mothers into bringing in more unfortunate children.

is it?

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I think it's better to deal with the unfortunate children already living here than worry about forcing mothers into bringing in more unfortunate children.

Wouldn't necessarily say unfortunate children?

Fine, if you want to be technical about it "potentially" unfortunate.

Most of the women who truly need abortions dont come from wealthy families or can aquire a job that pays well enough to support herself and the child comfortably.

Ergo, making a poor mother give birth to a child makes two poor people, instead of just one.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Fine, if you want to be technical about it "potentially" unfortunate.

Better ✅

😆

I love it when a conversation ends well.

^co-sign

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
I say we eliminate abortion AND poverty by turning poor people into breeders and eating the babies!

SOLUTION!

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
SOLUTION!

I know that one. A Modest Proposal. Good read.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I figured it was a good time to make this topic considering the narrowness of the Abortion thread. Do you agree that these two issues are important? Is one more important than the other? Are they equally important?

As a socially responsible societydo we place top much emphasis on certain topics while altogether ignoring others? Discuss.

poverty

Both are important. Poverty more so, because no one deserves to live like that.

Originally posted by PVS
because its a spinoff thread. you cant compare the two equally, and inevitably the thread becomes another abortion for or against thread, since nobody is 'for' poverty. i mean, anyone can say "i think poverty is more important" but after that point it will certainly shift toward why they feel for/against a womans reproductive rights, since everyone can agree that poverty sucks to a point where there is no yard stick to measure the suck.

...although i think they were pretty harsh in their criticism of the thread.

Touche! You definitely have a good point. Myabe it would help to post a topic strictly on topics of poverty rather than trying to integrate 2 in depth topics. Thanks for the clarification.

We should deal with poverty first, no one should have to starve like those poor people do, we should do everything we can to help them. 🙂

Womens rights can come later, helping people is far more important than a womans right to abortion. IMO, of course.

Originally posted by Makedde
Womens rights can come later, helping people is far more important than a womans right to abortion. IMO, of course.

Because fighting for women's rights in a world where selfish people are fighting to take them away, is not helping people...

-AC

Well I do think one way as a possible solution for a partial fix for poverty is to take everyone in the world who wants to get rid of it and pool all their money then throw in all the poor people and their money now divide it all🙂 Man there we go

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because fighting for women's rights in a world where selfish people are fighting to take them away, is not helping people...

-AC

No, but at least they are not starving to death, dying of diseases that can easily be cured. Poverty stricken people don't have access to contraception-most women do. So womens rights should come second, because saving lives is more important than ending them.

Originally posted by Makedde
No, but at least they are not starving to death, dying of diseases that can easily be cured. Poverty stricken people don't have access to contraception-most women do. So womens rights should come second, because saving lives is more important than ending them.

Who's ending lives? Oh, blinkered view of abortion. I see.

In the real world, where we know abortion isn't ending "lives", why is helping the women in your OWN country coming secondary to helping people in another country?

That's the thing with pro-lifers. They're not really pro-life, they're pro-ego. "Saving women's rights to have abortions won't make me look selfless and humanitarian, doing poverty work will." *Pats self on back*

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In the real world, where we know abortion isn't ending "lives", why is helping the women in your OWN country coming secondary to helping people in another country?

Would it be better if I said 'potential lives' just to please you? 😛

It'd be better if you answered my question.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Who's ending lives? Oh, blinkered view of abortion. I see.

In the real world, where we know abortion isn't ending "lives", why is helping the women in your OWN country coming secondary to helping people in another country?

That's the thing with pro-lifers. They're not really pro-life, they're pro-ego. "Saving women's rights to have abortions won't make me look selfless and humanitarian, doing poverty work will." *Pats self on back*

-AC

God you are infantile!!!

I thought it was only in the other thread.

So in your "real world" abortion is only ending tissues and blood?

(that can move, breathe, cry, etc.. but isn't a life)

Piss on you.

You're the only one who is pro-ego on this topic.

To make a generalization like, "all pro-lifers want to look selfless and humanatarian" is complete horseshit.

I do it because I CARE (oh!) about lives being ended against their wills.

I know people who have had abortions and had destructive consequences, and people who didn't (through adoption and abstinence) whose lives are better for it.

I give my opinions because I see them in action in the "real world".

So don't lump me in any group that you made up in your head.

You're in some fake world where you spout off opininos about things that you don't have any personal stake in,... just to make yourself feel big.

And leave Mak alone.

Perahps she thinks that helping people in poverty takes priority over helping women who should have used protection or not had sex at all.

Her opinon is her business.