Fifa Germany 2006 - world cup thread

Started by Deathblow105 pages
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Watching Holland made me sad. If England's midfield is supposed to be one of the best in the world, why can't we display the fluidity, creativity and poise that Holland did so effortlessly?

I don't know, they were good in the first half, but they really didn't impress me in the second. In fact, their performance reminded me of England's a little. I think Serbia definitely deserved a draw at least. I think Ivory Coast will beat them (Holland).

Anyway, Argentina by a long way the best team so far. Extremely organised, efficient passing and completely ruthless in attack. They definitely deserved to beat a very good Ivory Coast team, and without two of their best three players on the pitch.

you mean Aimar, Tevez and Mascherano right?

Originally posted by Deathblow
I don't know, they were good in the first half, but they really didn't impress me in the second. In fact, their performance reminded me of England's a little. I think Serbia definitely deserved a draw at least. I think Ivory Coast will beat them (Holland).

As a collective, the performance of the Dutch midfield was far superior. It wasn't a perfect performance, but it certainly was a step-above England's. Only Joe Cole impressed for England.

As for Argentina, why wasn't Tevez involved? I thought he's supposed to be da bomb-diggerty, no doubt?

i dunno why he wasnt involved, should've been... that kid is gold. shits all over Saviola anyway.

Aimar may not've been involved because he has TB, or some similar disease... as for Mascherano, he's incredible, but Dimechelis is a more well known and respected player for that position, sigh.

Let's not forget that Messi wasn't there.

Although I believe Brazil are the best team there, I don't expect every game to be some walkover, they could very well get knocked out. Some high quality teams left.

-AC

id put Tevez above Messi

i actually prefer messi. he is unplayable most the time.

Originally posted by Df02
you mean Aimar, Tevez and Mascherano right?

Mascherano played, Aimar came on towards the end.

And no, I meant Tevez and Messi. Aimar can't get in the team anymore because Riquelme is much better, which really says something about Riquelme. The reason Messi wasn't involved was cos he's still not 100% fit, and with the squad Pekerman has, I guess he felt he could risk not playing him right away.

Saviola's good enough anyway, it's Crespo I'm not convinced in. He's a great goalscorer, no doubt, but he's just a poacher, tends to float out of the game unless Argentina are dominating. Tevez on the other hand is apparently the best player in South America (as in the clubs), can't wait to see him.

Originally posted by Deathblow
Mascherano played, Aimar came on towards the end.

And no, I meant Tevez and Messi. Aimar can't get in the team anymore because Riquelme is much better, which really says something about Riquelme. The reason Messi wasn't involved was cos he's still not 100% fit, and with the squad Pekerman has, I guess he felt he could risk not playing him right away.

Saviola's good enough anyway, it's Crespo I'm not convinced in. He's a great goalscorer, no doubt, but he's just a poacher, tends to float out of the game unless Argentina are dominating. Tevez on the other hand is apparently the best player in South America (as in the clubs), can't wait to see him.

Mascherano played? i thought he had Dimecheilis in the holding role.
my bad.

Can anyone tell me why Jose Pekerman decided to release the lineup 2 days before playing Ivory Coast... and by the way Argentina didnt play that well until the second half imo.

Originally posted by Df02
Mascherano played? i thought he had Dimecheilis in the holding role.
my bad.

i dont think demichelis got picked for the sqaud

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're the one who claims that with Ukraine, anything is possible. Be real, it's not is it? A World Cup victory for them is possible in the literal sense, it's not realistically going to happen and you're a fool if you believe otherwise.

Look at the tournament they played in. That was luck, they're not a good team, Greece are a shit team. Ukraine are also poor, they have a single noteworthy player, even then it's a stretch. He relies on the ball being fed to him to a high degree.

Neither are you, so I guess we're even. Chill out, miss.

Let me put a dampener on your argument, the only people calling it a fluke goal are bitter England fans looking for an excuse. England fans always make excuses up, you know that right? "It was the Swiss ref!", "It was the heat!", "It was cos Beckham got a red card!", "It was cos we lost Rooney!". Funny, because when I say "England only beat Argentina because they took off Riquelme and a few others." people like you say "That made no difference."

The BBC even have commentators that were sitting there saying he meant it. If it had been Rooney or Beckham, you wouldn't dare say it was a fluke. I think it's pathetic that England fans hype up tap ins and jammy goals, yet when England are completely outclassed by the world's greatest player, you won't have the decency to give the man and his team their dues. You simply cannot accept that England are not the best team out there, it's sad. I called Deano a patriot, but at least the man recognises there are better teams than England.

Who's the worse off? The man who scored the "fluke" (not that it was one) or the dozey goalkeeper, past his prime, who let it in? Or maybe it was the defense when Rivaldo powered past them and screamed his shot past Seamen. Pick your poison, pick your excuse. You're the one who still hasn't got over Brazil getting that win, so you're the one who needs to cheer up. That was 4 years ago, buddy. Brazil have been beating top sides by many goals since then. England lost to Belarus, struggled against Hungary, struggled against Paraguay, what's the beef? Brazil are simply a better team, regardless of what you think of me supporting them, you cannot realistically deny that. Even Deano admits it.

Pissed all over them and still couldn't score past their substitute goalkeeper, real talent. England had no signs of scoring a goal of their own in that match, aside from the odd Lampard shot, which were comfortable saves. That would have more than likely ended 0-0 if Paraguay didn't score the own goal.

England got an own goal and then played like Italy. If they do that against better teams (because there are better teams than England in this tournament), they'll get destroyed.

You think Ronaldo, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Robinho or Kaka give two shakes about England's "solid" defence? Every paper in England refers to John Terry as a rock, an unbeatable rock. Lest we forget the day Ronaldinho shoved him away and shrugged him off before putting his club out of the Champions League. That was Ronaldinho, Adriano and Ronaldo are both much stronger.

-AC

You're opinions, certainly not fact, and you will never get me to believe so!!!

And as for Ukraine, at the end of the day, if I believe they can go quite far, that's my belief and opinion, and i'm entitled to it, as much as you are in your making excuses for Brazil edging out a poor England performance due to a fluke goal.....that's the way I look at it, and no one will change my mind, it's not ignorance on my part, it's just my beliefs, and I am very independant, I don't stray away because i'm fed a different point of view by someone

I apologise for getting a little bit tetchy over it, but I hate when people cruch my opinion, and insult it in the way you did

I don't laugh at your opinions and poke fun, even though I do not agree with them, I would expect the same respect from you

Oh and on another note.....Rosicky is gonna be a big player for Arsenal next season, he and Nedved ran the Yanks ragged today, though the whole Czech performance looked impressive, true the opposition weren't that great in terms of quality or reputation, but even still.....same could be said about Angola, a team Portugal struggled to beat

Originally posted by Mattomic
You're opinions, certainly not fact, and you will never get me to believe so!!!

I know, because you're an ignorant patriot who acts like a know-it-all despite knowing nothing.

Originally posted by Mattomic
And as for Ukraine, at the end of the day, if I believe they can go quite far, that's my belief and opinion, and i'm entitled to it, as much as you are in your making excuses for Brazil edging out a poor England performance due to a fluke goal.....that's the way I look at it, and no one will change my mind, it's not ignorance on my part, it's just my beliefs, and I am very independant, I don't stray away because i'm fed a different point of view by someone

I'm not making excuses for Brazil, I don't need to. They're simply a better team than England, they were then, they are now. There's not much more than need be said. You are the one still having nightmares about it, I've moved on. I moved on the day it happened, because it's just a game. You're the one so far up England's asses that you will deny the world's best player a great goal. If it was Beckham, you'd say "He meant it", wouldn't you?

Originally posted by Mattomic
I apologise for getting a little bit tetchy over it, but I hate when people cruch my opinion, and insult it in the way you did

Then don't have stupid opinions that are easily dismissable and simultaneously laughable. Simple.

"I hate it when I'm wrong and people point it out". Yes, I would too.

Originally posted by Mattomic
I don't laugh at your opinions and poke fun, even though I do not agree with them, I would expect the same respect from you

You don't deserve my respect just because you respect me. I didn't ask for your respect, I couldn't care less.

-AC

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Yeah. England's gunna wipe the floor.

As in janitor duty. 😐

damn..Italy still can't play a modern system..

italy played well though. good match tonight

Originally posted by Mattomic
Oh and on another note.....Rosicky is gonna be a big player for Arsenal next season, he and Nedved ran the Yanks ragged today, though the whole Czech performance looked impressive, true the opposition weren't that great in terms of quality or reputation, but even still.....same could be said about Angola, a team Portugal struggled to beat

Yeah I agree, the Czechs were excellent, even when Koller got stretchered off they looked very sharp. I think the USA team is still underrated in terms of individual talent, we have some very good players, Beasley and Donovan in particular. But yeah, we were outclassed all over the pitch, Rosicky and Nedved ate our defense for breakfast and our midfield for a light luncheon, and our only real sight of goal was Reyna hitting the post.

I was impressed with Ghana today, they looked very patchy at times both defensively and when trying to string passes together (they seemed to want to play everything very short), but like the Ivorians they were full of running, energy and creative verve, and Michael Essien was a titan in the middle, best player on the field by far. I was disappointed by Italy as a whole really, their new improved strikeforce was a let down, Toni and Gilardino looked a little toothless, and only Pirlo really got his teeth into the match. It may be a cliche, but Italy won that game on experience more than anything.

Toni looked good, but Gilardino let him down.

I was quite impressed by Italy though, and usually I think they're shite.

Gilardino is overrated imo... should have started Iaquinta