Haha, well funny. "Look at us taking the piss out of the Germans but moaning when they do it to us." Funny stuff.
Not as funny as the English general public teasing, taunting and mouthing off at the Germans, only to shit themselves and hope they get Ecuador instead. I laughed when I saw all the paper headlines "At least we avoid the Germans." I wonder why that is?
Good old English hypocricy, never gonna be beat. At least that's something they win at.
-AC
Originally posted by Deano
no one wants to face the home nation. if they wasnt hosting the cup, the papers woudnt be saying ' i hope we avoid the germans'. why would they?
Oh give it a rest. I was actually thinking "There is no way the English can make excuses for this cowardice.", apparantly I was wrong.
Would England be saying "I hope we don't get South Korea" if it was still being held there? No. It has zero to do with it being the host nation, does it? It's because Germany are better and deep down in their sad, hypocritical minds, the "Wheeeeey, En-Ger-Land!" type fans are the ones who know it. As much as I'm no fan of the team, it's the fanclub that make me sick.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Oh give it a rest. I was actually thinking "There is no way the English can make excuses for this cowardice.", apparantly I was wrong.Would England be saying "I hope we don't get South Korea" if it was still being held there? No. It has zero to do with it being the host nation, does it? It's because Germany are better and deep down in their sad, hypocritical minds, the "Wheeeeey, En-Ger-Land!" type fans are the ones who know it. As much as I'm no fan of the team, it's the fanclub that make me sick.
-AC
im not scared of england playing germany LMAO. id like to see england give them a good hammering again. 😉
south korea are average who havent got a good footie history. its a completely different ball game with germany.
germany are better? thats one of the most stupid posts ever.
i now hope to god that england play germany. please god i pray.
im more worried about bird flu than england losing to germany.
Originally posted by Deano
im not scared of england playing germany LMAO. id like to see england give them a good hammering again. 😉
Again? They did it in 66 and then that 5-1 that the foolish English fans hold onto so preciously. By the way, who got further in that tournament? England or Germany? Germany. So, who had the last laugh? England with their "Haha, we won 5-1, we made a DVD and beach towels out of it." or Germany with their "Well we got further in the actual tournament."?
Germany have consistently proven themselves the better team. Also, what you'd like to see doesn't matter. I'd like to see a score that tells the story in England matches. Argentina game? England were dominated. Sweden game? Dominated, second half. Paraguay? Rattled.
Originally posted by Deano
south korea are average who havent got a good footie history. its a completely different ball game with germany.
Don't try to weasel out of it. You claimed it was because the tournament was in Germany, but it was in Korea and no word was said about Korea. You then said it's history, so it's obviously not about hosting.
England were giving mouth, putting out stupid songs aimed at Germany for no reason as they always do, only to say "At least we didn't get them." Don't act like you're better if you're shitting a brick at the mere idea of facing them.
Originally posted by Deano
germany are better? thats one of the most stupid posts ever.
They've played better football this tournament, better football most tournaments. Germany have won the World Cup three times, beat England where it matters. What basis do you have to claim England are better besides it being England/Germany? The 5-1? Because Germany got further than England.
Originally posted by Deano
i now hope to god that england play germany. please god i pray.
If Germany beat England, what will you say? I guarantee to the point that it's a borderline fact, that Germany could overwhelmingly win that match and you'd still come up with some excuse. I can guarantee it. That's if England get past Ecuador, and they should do.
If...IF...England get knocked out by Ecuador, well...I wouldn't put it past an England fan to produce an excuse, but it'll be laughable.
Originally posted by Deano
im more worried about bird flu than england losing to germany.
Why do you even deny being a patriot? You carry the same German feud as any typical England fan.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Again? They did it in 66 and then that 5-1 that the foolish English fans hold onto so preciously. By the way, who got further in that tournament? England or Germany? Germany. So, who had the last laugh? England with their "Haha, we won 5-1, we made a DVD and beach towels out of it." or Germany with their "Well we got further in the actual tournament."?
you are going off the wall now. yes again. like in 2001.
germany got further in the tournament but that wasnt the discussion. why are you starting an argument. i jokingly said i woudnt mind england hammering them again.
no more to be said.
Germany have consistently proven themselves the better team. Also, what you'd like to see doesn't matter. I'd like to see a score that tells the story in England matches. Argentina game? England were dominated. Sweden game? Dominated, second half. Paraguay? Rattled.
germany average against costa rica, could of drawed. avergae against poland, got very lucky. beat an ecuador who rested 6 of there top players. nuff said.
and the argentina game, they had more possesion than england, they always will, i sai dthat before. still didnt create more chances than england. it was pretty equal. sweden game dominated 2nd half yes..that was englands doing though. ask sven what he said at half time.
Don't try to weasel out of it. You claimed it was because the tournament was in Germany, but it was in Korea and no word was said about Korea. You then said it's history, so it's obviously not about hosting.
im not weasling out of nothing. korea are average. germany are a better side with more determination and with there home fans behind them, they will be tough to beat.
England were giving mouth, putting out stupid songs aimed at Germany for no reason as they always do, only to say "At least we didn't get them." Don't act like you're better if you're shitting a brick at the mere idea of facing them.[quote/]its a bit of fun. and i know germany do it too. dont make it out to be one way traffic. why would anyone be shitting a brick at the prospect of playing them?
[quote]They've played better football this tournament, better football most tournaments. Germany have won the World Cup three times, beat England where it matters. What basis do you have to claim England are better besides it being England/Germany? The 5-1? Because Germany got further than England.
how have they played better? they scraped through against poland and costa rica. and beat a 2nd string ecuador team who didnt seem at all bothered about the 3rd game. what has the past have to do with anything. the basis i have is that england have the better players and the better team. the 5-1 has nothing to do with anything. thats ancient history. its all about the now.
If Germany beat England, what will you say? I guarantee to the point that it's a borderline fact, that Germany could overwhelmingly win that match and you'd still come up with some excuse. I can guarantee it. That's if England get past Ecuador, and they should do.
If...[b]IF...England get knocked out by Ecuador, well...I wouldn't put it past an England fan to produce an excuse, but it'll be laughable.
if germany beat england i will say whatever the truth is. your no saint yourself. you are always coming to the defence of brazil, the ronaldo debate an example of your excuses. if england lose to ecuador than there is no excuses to be made and you wont hear me making any.
Why do you even deny being a patriot? You carry the same German feud as any typical England fan.
theres no feud with me. i see it in good fun. YOU are the one making out as if im got some bitter rivaly with germany. i havent. i support england because ive been bought up to support them. but i know enough to realise its only a game. im guessing you never was bought up to like football, you never joined in with the rest of the england mob. i assume also that you only have recently come to like/love the game of football even more, so supporting the home country has neve really mattered to you. understand that.
Originally posted by Deano
you are going off the wall now. yes again. like in 2001.
germany got further in the tournament but that wasnt the discussion. why are you starting an argument. i jokingly said i woudnt mind england hammering them again.
no more to be said.
Like in 2001? So that's three times in memory? Laughable.
Originally posted by Deano
germany average against costa rica, could of drawed. avergae against poland, got very lucky. beat an ecuador who rested 6 of there top players. nuff said.
They did better in that first game than England did. They dominated a lot of the play, scored three goals, two of which were great.
Average against Poland, I'll agree, but they still dominated the game while playing average. The goal was last-minute, but they worked toward it and were in no danger of losing. They played brilliantly against Ecuador and pulled out a 3-0 win, it wasn't their fault that Ecuador rested the players, nor do I believe it would have been a Germany loss or draw.
Originally posted by Deano
and the argentina game, they had more possesion than england, they always will, i sai dthat before. still didnt create more chances than england. it was pretty equal. sweden game dominated 2nd half yes..that was englands doing though. ask sven what he said at half time.
They evidently did create more chances considering they were infront for most of the game, they had more shots at goal. England didn't get the win until Riquelme and a few others come of. Why? Because Argentina stopped dominating possession and that's why England got the chances.
Originally posted by Deano
im not weasling out of nothing. korea are average. germany are a better side with more determination and with there home fans behind them, they will be tough to beat.
Their home fans don't make them a better team though, they're as good as they are. You claimed it's all "Glad we avoided the Germans" because they're the host nation and nobody wants to play a host nation. Nothing was said about Korea, so that puts your argument out of line.
Originally posted by Deano
how have they played better? they scraped through against poland and costa rica. and beat a 2nd string ecuador team who didnt seem at all bothered about the 3rd game. what has the past have to do with anything. the basis i have is that england have the better players and the better team. the 5-1 has nothing to do with anything. thats ancient history. its all about the now.
How did they scrape through against Costa Rica? The scoreline wasn't dramatic, but the play was. Costa Rica got one goal that was a combination of poor defending and Wanchope's pace. Germany dominated everything else and scored commanding goals, in only their first game. They didn't "struggle" against Poland, they weren't playing shit at all, but I'll admit it was average. Oh but wait, I see that when it comes to Ecuador getting thrashed 3-0 and outplayed, it's because they are 2nd string. They're a good side but they're hardly world class, they're just this tournaments surprise team.
England have got some very good players, whether or not they are better than Germany, that's debateable. However, they don't have the better team do they? No. Germany don't fall to pieces when a single defender comes off, they play as a team. England don't know where they are half the time.
Originally posted by Deano
if germany beat england i will say whatever the truth is. your no saint yourself. you are always coming to the defence of brazil, the ronaldo debate an example of your excuses. if england lose to ecuador than there is no excuses to be made and you wont hear me making any.
What excuses did I make for Ronaldo? "He's not fat"? He's not, he's had two bad games and he's past his prime, yes. That's all it was though, two bad games, and none of them really had a great one. In the games leading up to this World Cup he's been excellent. There are no excuses there. People are just being harsh, and the run up games prove it.
Originally posted by Deano
theres no feud with me. i see it in good fun. YOU are the one making out as if im got some bitter rivaly with germany. i havent. i support england because ive been bought up to support them. but i know enough to realise its only a game. im guessing you never was bought up to like football, you never joined in with the rest of the england mob. i assume also that you only have recently come to like/love the game of football even more, so supporting the home country has neve really mattered to you. understand that.
Yes, exactly. I never joined with the rest of the England mob, that's exactly right. I never did, nor did I ever want to. Ironic, it's like there's a different Deano in here than there is in the GDF. One minute you're calling everyone sheep, then you're making me out as a villain for not joining the England mob. It's not my home country either, it's 11 men from England. I don't have to support them just because they are from here. Do you support Blair? You should, you were born in the same country.
I don't care what you "assume", you're wrong. I've supported Brazil through good and bad since I tuned in to the 94 World Cup, before they even won it. I've been an Arsenal supporter since I was about 6.
You know what they say about assumptions.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri´
I don't care what you "assume", you're wrong. I've supported Brazil through good and bad since I tuned in to the 94 World Cup, before they even won it.
-AC
To be fair there was quite a lot less bad than good since then...just look at the WCs, won, second, won...pretty good I'd say.
Fair enough, the point is that I wasn't brought up to support anyone, but even if you choose to support England because it's England, you don't have to be a gutter bred yob. If England fans stopped promoting such a shit, ignorant and violent image (and I know there are fans all over like it, as I am aware there are peaceful England fans) then maybe they wouldn't be viewed the world over with such disgust.
The fact that I almost got run over because I wore a Brazil shirt is what also gives me my distaste. The fact that my mother tells me to calm down and not cheer as loud when they score, because she's worried that some moron might hear it and brick our windows in, is what turns me against those kind of people. It's not all of them, but it's a high majority.
That's why I delight in seeing them lose a bit more, because not only is the press shit, but I love seeing those kind of people get their arrogant, racist faces shoved into reality. It's nothing personal.
-AC
i agree with you. i also think that some people put football before everything else. i tend to ignore the press. i hate them.
1000's of iraqi's have been maimed and killed....who cares..england lost, that is more important.
nothing wrong with the world cup, but when you put it before everything else and ignore the real problems then you have a problem, you sell yourself out.
Originally posted by Dregh
The logo of the England national football team combines the ''Three Lions'' with the Tudor rose.]]The two traditional symbols of England are the St. George's cross (the English flag) and the ''Three Lions'' coat of arms (see above), both derived from the great Norman powers that formed the monarchy – the Cross of Aquitaine and the Lions of Anjou. The three lions were first definitely used by Richard I (''Richard the Lionheart''😉 in the late 12th century (although it is also possible that Henry I may have bestowed it on his son Henry before then).
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Fair enough, the point is that I wasn't brought up to support anyone, but even if you choose to support England because it's England, you don't have to be a gutter bred yob. If England fans stopped promoting such a shit, ignorant and violent image (and I know there are fans all over like it, as I am aware there are peaceful England fans) then maybe they wouldn't be viewed the world over with such disgust.The fact that I almost got run over because I wore a Brazil shirt is what also gives me my distaste. The fact that my mother tells me to calm down and not cheer as loud when they score, because she's worried that some moron might hear it and brick our windows in, is what turns me against those kind of people. It's not all of them, but it's a high majority.
That's why I delight in seeing them lose a bit more, because not only is the press shit, but I love seeing those kind of people get their arrogant, racist faces shoved into reality. It's nothing personal.
-AC
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Damn those morons, thanks for reminding me why I dont go to church but rather read the bible at home.