Darth Revan vs Ulic Qel Droma

Started by tdtd7 pages

thats what I said

Why wouldn't Exar have improved in lightsaber skills? We know he did it at one point between in his fights with Ulic and there is nothing to suggest that he did it after fighting Ulic rather then before fighting Ulic. When Exar got the amulet from Nadd it seemed that he all around became a ton better.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Why wouldn't Exar have improved in lightsaber skills? We know he did it at one point between in his fights with Ulic and there is nothing to suggest that he did it after fighting Ulic rather then before fighting Ulic. When Exar got the amulet from Nadd it seemed that he all around became a ton better.

Thats unsupported.

All we know is that he used the force on everything he fought after Vodo and didn't use his lightsaber again until he fought Ulic he also had no reason to use it, and with all the knowledge he had to study... Well, I doubt he di.

He didn't create dual bladed lightsaber by that point either. Unless you can prove that Exar improved between fighting Vodo and Ulic which you can't because there is no prove, he didn't. He only improved after that moment. When he was Dark Lord of the Sith and ready to go to war.

And in between his fights with Ulic? He only fought Ulic once...

Exar Kun improved his light saber abilities when he build the double sided lightsaber and developed a new saber technique. This was done after fighting Ulic, so Ulic didn't get the stronger Kun in the fight.

He also just cut down Satal who didn't even have a weapon

Bullshit.

What's that he's blocking the lightsaber with, Fishy? I love how your "access to the comics" (by yanking images off of swcomics.com) ensures objectivity on your part... oh wait.

He stalemated an Exar Kun that wasn't an impressive lightsaber fighter there. Far weaker then he would become when he destroyed Vodo

Now Ulic was never really shown to improve at all, he stalemated an Exar that was knocked down by Vodo in a very short fight. I fail to see how that is impressive. Exar Kun became impressive with a lightsaber after that, he wasn't a lightsaber god while fighting Ulic.

Going to argue with the narration?

I circled it just to make it clearer.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
zephiel, you still have that large quote from Lord Darkstar to respond to.

This is hilarious, apparently you can pick your opinion, and then everyone else has to prove you wrong to your subjective guidelines.

Funny. Why don't you try asking the other side for some proof?

Originally posted by Illustrious
This is hilarious, apparently you can pick your opinion, and then everyone else has to prove you wrong to your subjective guidelines.

Funny. Why don't you try asking the other side for some proof?

And that was directed at tdtd, silly autoquote feature.

Originally posted by IKC
Bullshit.

What's that he's blocking the lightsaber with, Fishy? I love how your "access to the comics" (by yanking images off of swcomics.com) ensures objectivity on your part... oh wait.

Oh look at that, I made a mistake. He still wasn't an impressive fighter, and its not like you never made a mistake.. Like with the chancelor, don't see me going about that now do you?

And what does it matter really, the guy was worthless.


Going to argue with the narration?

I circled it just to make it clearer.

Again pretty much everybody with a name was called a Master Swordman. Revna was, Malak was Kavar was, what does that have to do with anything? And how the hell does it prove that Exar Kun became better with a lightsaber after being beaten by Vodo until that moment? Oh yeah thats right it doesn't.

You're right it doesn't, and illustrious I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it's something I posted on a few pages back but since i'm obviously not going to go back that far, please be clear with what I did or didn't do.

Oh look at that, I made a mistake.

Except you made a declaration that was flat-out untrue.

Again pretty much everybody with a name was called a Master Swordman.

What a crock of shit! Were they called master swordsmen by omniscient narrators? Did you pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that everyone you just named actually might have been master swordsmen?

Originally posted by IKC
Except you made a declaration that was flat-out untrue.

Like you with the chancelor, dude I said something that was wrong, but I believed it was true. So what, everybody makes mistakes. Its hanging on to them after being proven wrong that makes it bad. And he still wasn't an impressive fighter.

What a crock of shit! Were they called master swordsmen by omniscient narrators? Did you pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that everyone you just named actually might have been master swordsmen?

Everybody with a name was called a Master Swordman at one time or another, doesn't make them able to stand up against Revan, Malak, Ulic or Exar now does it? The point you made means jack shit, and sure as hell doesn't prove Ulic is powerful.

I do agree that Revan is superior to Ulic, though not by alot, but how on earth is he weaker than Malak?

Ragnos declared Kun the stronger yes, but he still named Ulic his apprentice, meaning that Ulic was no weakling, of the Sith, he was subordinate only to Kun, whereas Malak, could not even contend fairly with Revan, first time he shot Revan's ship, the 2nd time he required driods and a empowering weapon ie the Star Forge, to even have a chance to defeat a memory wiped Revan, a Revan who was about this time a Jedi Master...

In combination with his Zar'kai style, and his precognition, and overall superior lightsaber skills I suppose Revan is the victor.

In terms of a force duel, Revan wtfpwns Qel Droma.

In Echani combat Revan wins, because he defeated Yusanis with his skill(proof read Yusanis brand description, talk to Brianna)

Zephiel7, we've already established that Revan > Ulic, but dont go thinking Malak > Ulic because he is not.

No, really. We haven't established the former.

Ulic would saber-rape Revan. Hardcore.

Originally posted by IKC
No, really. We haven't established the former.

Ulic would saber-rape Revan. Hardcore.

any evidence for that?

Originally posted by zephiel7
In combination with his Zar'kai style, and his precognition, and overall superior lightsaber skills I suppose Revan is the victor.

In terms of a force duel, Revan wtfpwns Qel Droma.

In Echani combat Revan wins, because he defeated Yusanis with his skill(proof read Yusanis brand description, talk to Brianna)

No.

Something about some of you that are in love with TSW characters and hate KOTOR characters. Revan would ***** slap Ulic.

WTF? You -do- realize that Ulic has an assload of experience, right? He's only the central character in about four or five comic serieses.

You do realise he does about jack shit in those comics right?

He's barely seen fighting, in fact he only fights a few nobody's, one force sensitive guy not worth mentioning, Mandalore and Kun.

He beats Mandalore and stalemates Exar who at that time is far from the lightsaber god he would later on become. Ulic is about the most overrated character there is. He really hasn't seen all that much combat.