Darth Revan vs Ulic Qel Droma

Started by tdtd7 pages

Yea he's uber leet with sexy Michael Bolton hair, but Revan is the lead of a canon storyline.. Nobody said Revan could take Kun but Revan would take Ulic.. Ulic is sexier though..

Ulic's list, and I may be leaving some out:

Warb Null
King Ommin (who was able to own Arca)
Satal Keto
Stalemated a lesser, but still very skilled, Exar Kun
Mandalore, when Mandalore had every advantage
Cay Qel-Droma
Stalemated Sylvar while cut off from the Force.

Ulic saber-rapes Revan.

Lets see... Ulic fought only 1 person even considered a lightsaber prodigy(Kun) and stalemated him. Revan defeated a lightsaber prodigy in Malak, who was also allegedly powered by the star forge. Revan beats Ulic with difficulty.

Cool. I love how "lightsaber prodigy" is somehow this great equalizer, and then Revan squeaks by with the unsubstantiated "boost" Malak received. So essentially your argument (If I can call it that) is U = P, M = P + S, therefore U < M.

Wow. That's horrible.

Oh wait... you forgot something....

Exar Kun had been delving into Sith lore and tricks for months, and had a Sith amulet on him. So I guess he's much better than a simple "lightsaber prodigy". Also, Ulic was wounded and infected with something.

Let me try simpleton logic!

U = E + A + I, P= M + S. Therefore, U >>> M

Oh noes!

You also fail to understand the true extent of Revans battle precognition.

Revan will see all of Ulic's attacks before hand and strike back with his dual sabers.

Originally posted by zephiel7
You also fail to understand the true extent of Revans battle precognition.

Revan will see all of Ulic's attacks before hand and strike back with his dual sabers.

Actually, I fail to see conclusive evidence that he has it. The word of some ignoramus girl who never met him doesn't convince me.

What she learned that from Atris

That is valid proof if any. In a video game, its hard to have an omniscient narrator. We have to accept facts said by game characters, because that is how the game makers intended their characters to be.

No, we don't. Atton didn't even know what sex Revan was, and he served in Revan's special forces. I highly doubt that sheltered Brianna knows shit, and I doubt that Revan has battle precognition, because no one ever mentioned it, including Atris. It's speculation, and it's because the Echani have something similar that Brianna makes the assumption. And again, she is not a qualified expert nor did she know the guy. Irrelevant.

You dismiss a source that effectively communicates the intent of the omniscient "gamemakers." I don't see how what you are saying makes sense.

By that logic, the Exile really is the strongest student of Kreia and Revan is really the heart of the force, not to mention the Exile is effectively mediocre and Revan was a child compared to everyone who came before him.

All that by hearsay testimony in game, btw. Nice way of saying random person who supports Revan is somehow "omniscient".

Nobody said Malak is greater than Ulic. But we're talking about a lightsaber duel here, and Revan has clearly achieved more in those terms. I don't know enough to say who'd win in a force battle.

Originally posted by tdtd
Nobody said Malak is greater than Ulic. But we're talking about a lightsaber duel here, and Revan has clearly achieved more in those terms. I don't know enough to say who'd win in a force battle.

LOL.... I still don't get it does that mean "You're right I'm sorry"? Thanks man..

No, that was just my impression of that argument you put forth. Prove up, man. You provide nothing.

By that logic, the Exile really is the strongest student of Kreia and Revan is really the heart of the force, not to mention the Exile is effectively mediocre

I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that the omniscient narrators, that is the "gamemakers" could be wrong. Revan was a very powerful Jedi, thats why he warranted such praise from Traya who was witness to Exar Kun and Ulic. I would not say that the comic book maker who created Exar Kun and Ulic were bsing when they stated that Exar and Ulic were "master swordsman."

Prove up what? Revan convincingly beat Malak in the star forge. Ulic stalemated the only one worthy of lightsaber combat(Kun). What's wrong with my argument? Disregarding what Kreia said about Revan being power and the heart of the force, we have enough to assume Revan is more powerful than Ulic, at least in lightsaber combat.

Originally posted by zephiel7
I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that the omniscient narrators, that is the "gamemakers" could be wrong. Revan was a very powerful Jedi, thats why he warranted such praise from Traya who was witness to Exar Kun and Ulic. I would not say that the comic book maker who created Exar Kun and Ulic were bsing when they stated that Exar and Ulic were "master swordsman."

I know, it's hard for you to let go of the inner fanboy and see this objectively but Brianna is not the mouthpiece fo the "omniscient gamemakers". She's one source of a supposed power she assumes that Revan has.

Originally posted by tdtd
Prove up what? Revan convincingly beat Malak in the star forge. Ulic stalemated the only one worthy of lightsaber combat(Kun). What's wrong with my argument? Disregarding what Kreia said about Revan being power and the heart of the force, we have enough to assume Revan is more powerful than Ulic, at least in lightsaber combat.

Exar Kun with sith amulet and training >>>>> Malak with a dinky Star Forge, mkay? And we have NO idea how close that battle was between Revan and Malak.

Who cares how close it was lol.. Saying that malak wasn't powered by the SF is like saying Exar Kun wasn't powered by the amulet. We don't know either, but we do know Revan BEAT Malak, no matter how close it was, and Ulic stalemated Kun.

I know, it's hard for you to let go of the inner fanboy and see this objectively but Brianna is not the mouthpiece fo the "omniscient gamemakers". She's one source of a supposed power she assumes that Revan has.

Why on earth would the game makers even bring in Revan and battle precognition then? The game makers intended to communicate the fact that Revan had battle precognition.