Originally posted by tdtd
You're wrong, the force is only one aspect of lightsaber combat. You actually have to train and improve your technique. Sidious didn't touch a lightsaber for 20 years because he had no need to, so there is nothing to indicate that he would be a match for his younger self.
Nope, you're wrong. You're merely speculating. Unless you offer proof that Palpatine never again used a lightsaber ever again after Yoda, then you're wrong. That you've never seen or heard of the Emperor using a saber again after Ep. III doesn't mean he never used it at all again.
How do you know that he didn't personally take matters into his own hands during the Galactic Civil War. We both don't know. The ROTS Palpatine got his arse handed to him by Windu yet ROTJ Palpatine was seconds away from murdering the future leader of the New Jedi Order who was on many accounts more powerful than Yoda and would destroy Windu.
ROTJ Sidious lords over ROTS Palpatine.
Bro, read the novels in between episode 3 and 4. Vader did all of Palpatine's dirty work. Palpatine was defeating Luke, someone who has never even used the force and has had less than 2 years of training, by using force lightning. And in the novel it said Luke deflected it for a minute which is unheard of. Also the mere fact that palpatine walks around with no lightsaber in all the movies says something.. He doesn't use one.
I would hardly call the 3 he killed anywhere near the best. He got bested by the best in Mace Windu and Yoda..
They were three of the best. Kit Fisto was equal to Obi-Wan in Cestus Deception, and the others were Council members with excellent reputations.
Mace was a saber prodigy, and Yoda was practicing the saber for over 800 years. And then there's the possibility that Sids faked the fight...
Originally posted by tdtd
Bro, read the novels in between episode 3 and 4. Vader did all of Palpatine's dirty work. Palpatine was defeating Luke, someone who has never even used the force and has had less than 2 years of training, by using force lightning. And in the novel it said Luke deflected it for a minute which is unheard of. Also the mere fact that palpatine walks around with no lightsaber in all the movies says something.. He doesn't use one.
Read what novels in between ep. 3 and 4? The only novel between ep's 3 and 4 that I know of and finished was "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader", which took place a few months after Ep. 3 during the 1st phases of the Jedi Purge and The Fall of Kashykk, a.k.a. the Wookie homeworld and the first planet to succumb to the Empire.
I'd like to know of these novel(s) that you speak of, that took place during that era. A link would be nice too.
I think there was 1 other one. One of them was talking about how Vader did all of Palpatine's dirty work while Palpatine sat back and watched. You can't say just because he didn't use a lightsaber doesn't mean he wasn't good. He had absolutely no reason to use one at any point after Yoda, because the destruction of the Jedi was complete. His only threat was Luke and Vader, and he successfully pitted them against each other.
No Gamblor, Sidious faking the fight was pure speculation, actually an illogical myth. If you read the novel you will see that Palpatine was getting his ass handed to hm, as he underestimated Windu.
According to the novel, Anakin wtfpwned Dooku, Sidious is the most powerful Sith who ever lived and Kit Fisto's head became an office ornament.
Originally posted by tdtd
I think there was 1 other one. One of them was talking about how Vader did all of Palpatine's dirty work while Palpatine sat back and watched. You can't say just because he didn't use a lightsaber doesn't mean he wasn't good. He had absolutely no reason to use one at any point after Yoda, because the destruction of the Jedi was complete. His only threat was Luke and Vader, and he successfully pitted them against each other.
Yea. Sounds like "Dark Lord". It's the only novel that takes place after Ep3, dude. There isn't more that one, as you say.
And since we're discussing EU, there's this awesome game i'm playing called "Star Wars: Empire @ War", I recommend it.
But in one stage you get to play as Empire Palpatine. You land on planet Bothawi, the Bothan homeworld on a mission to destroy all resistance in an encampment area populated by bothan spies that have interfered with imperial business on every level. Using Palaptine, and two red guards that assisted me who were useless, I could've done it without them, you uber lord over all enemies in the game using Palps With A Lightsaber. Now we're talking post-ep III, post Yoda battle, pre-A New Hope Palpatine lightsaber action mojo, dude. You want proof, get the game and see.
Originally posted by Gamblor
[B]No Gamblor, Sidious faking the fight was pure speculation, actually an illogical myth. If you read the novel you will see that Palpatine was getting his ass handed to hm, as he underestimated Windu.According to the novel, Anakin wtfpwned Dooku, Sidious is the most powerful Sith who ever lived and Kit Fisto's head became an office ornament. [/B]
You obviously didn't read the novels then because
1. Dooku toyed with Anakin too long and got his ass kicked as a result of his arrogance.
2. Palpatine never faked anything with Windu, his arrogance blinded him and he was tooled.
3. Palpatine in terms of achievements is the GREATEST sith, but he was nowhere near the most powerful. Not even close.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yea. Sounds like "Dark Lord". It's the only novel that takes place after Ep3, dude. There isn't more that one, as you say.And since we're discussing EU, there's this awesome game i'm playing called "Star Wars: Empire @ War", I recommend it.
But in one stage you get to play as Empire Palpatine. You land on planet Bothawi, the Bothan homeworld on a mission to destroy all resistance in an encampment area populated by bothan spies that have interfered with imperial business on every level. Using Palaptine, and two red guards that assisted me who were useless, I could've done it without them, you uber lord over all enemies in the game using Palps With A Lightsaber. Now we're talking post-ep III, post Yoda battle, pre-A New Hope Palpatine lightsaber action mojo, dude. You want proof, get the game and see.
I hope you know video games are as far from canon as possible
You obviously didn't read the novels then because
1. Dooku toyed with Anakin too long and got his ass kicked as a result of his arrogance.
2. Palpatine never faked anything with Windu, his arrogance blinded him and he was tooled.
3. Palpatine in terms of achievements is the GREATEST sith, but he was nowhere near the most powerful. Not even close.
What the hell are you even talking about? I was bringing up points to prove that the novel is quite bull**** seeing as how it contradicts a few things in the movies. It's one man's interpretation of the movie. That is it.
1. He was toying with him at the beginning, but at the end he was going ALL OUT according to the novel, and lost anyways.
2. Yes, "according to the novel" Windu won.
3. Perhaps, I think i'll flip through it tonight to verify.