Originally posted by tdtd
Anakin had no idea how Padme came to die, otherwise he wouldn't have turned to the darkside to save her, if he knew he was to kill her. Try again
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Dude. Anakin saw how Padme came to die. It was why he turned to the Darkside in order to prevent her death. She died in the same way Anakin dreamt it. She did indeed die at childbirth. And as an aside, Anakin didn't kill her. She just lost the will to live.
But to him, not turning to the Darkside to learn this "secret" would've caused Padme's death.
He knew how Padme was going to die and it happened in the exact same way he envisioned it retrospectively. What do you mean he had no idea how Padme came to die?
I don't get it.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Why do I see illogic in someone having more inferior lightsaber skills than an opponent who is more superior at lightsaber fighting but has inferior Force wielding skills than you do? Doesn't the Force guide lightsaber duelist by almost seemingly controlling the wielders actions Palpatine was a superior Force user over Windu yet Windu was a better duelists. It doesn't somehow fit.I think it makes more sense that there was indeed a chance that Palpatine may have faked his defeat in order to bait Anakin? He did after all ultimately defeat Windu after he cut down 3 High Counsel members in a matter of seconds. Noticed how he fell just before Anakin arrived as if he sense Anakin's arrival. As if it was planned. Noticed how Palpatine was slyly looking at Anakin while he was begging for his life to be spared. That was a look of knowing what the hell he was doing. That sneaky look.
The Force guides you in using the lightsaber, that's all. I've read twice, once in a GL interview (can't remember where, sorry) that the energy beam of the lightsaber is weightless. The only portion that weighs anything at all is the hilt. Therefore, The Force must guide you in using a lightsaber because without The Force you slice yourself from time to time and you'd be completely off balance trying to strike with it. You ABSOLUTELY need to practice to become good and to stay sharp. In all six movies only once do I remember ANYONE using a lightsaber that wasn't Force-adept. In The Empire Strikes Back Han Solo ignites Luke's lightsaber to cut open some two-legged kangaroo-type beast so he and Luke could use the skin to stay warm.
And Sidious was ABSOLUTELY faking in his "loss" to Mace Windu. FistOfThe North already pointed out a bunch of reasons. On top of those, do you really think Anakin would have turned to the darkside had he walked in and seen Sidious standing over 4 dead Jedi masters? He was tempted to kill the Chancellor upon first learning he was the Sith Lord the Jedi had been looking for. He would've battled Sidious on the spot and fulfilled his destiny 20 years earlier. He needed the Jedi to seem like traitors who were attempting to take over the Republic.
Originally posted by tdtd
Anakin had a vision that Padme was going to die but in no way did he know how or when..
I agree that GL absolutely supercedes whatever other sources you could possibly consider canon. I will watch the DVD commentary to check for anything opposite of what I've previously read or seen. If he claims that Sidious wasn't faking, then he should make movies that show his exact vision onscreen. The seen I've watched 744 times shows him faking so that Anakin will make a decision that will forever cut his ties with the Jedi.
Originally posted by tdtd
Anakin had a vision that Padme was going to die but in no way did he know how or when..
As a late comment on this side-debate, Anakin did dream exactly how she was going to die, which led him to seek a way to save her. Sidious made him believe the Darkside was the way, he believed it, end of story.
Now if you meant to say that Anakin/ Vader had no idea the children lived while Sidious knew full well that they did, then I agree.
Originally posted by Gamblor
[b]Wow. You don't get it, do you? Sidious lost and he was trying. End of story.Yet you still haven't proved he was trying. Try again. "Overpower" is a broad term. [/B]
I could fetch up every single word in the English language and I could consider them expansive.
You're showing symptoms of Fanboyism and it's hurting.
So, How come George didn't clear up in the commentary that Sidious was faking it? He said Sidious began to fake it after he had been defeated.
Go away now.