Count Dooku Vs Obi-Wan(ROTS), Grievous, and Kit Fisto

A few months.

Hope your happy. Now you can see that he not only got the script but got to talk to people at Lucasarts such as Sue Rostoni, Pablo Hidalgo (Episode III Set Diarist), and Jonathan Rinzler (author of The Making of Revenge of the Sith).

Dark Side Lightning is twice as powerful as Electricity and stronger.

And no, Kit most likely can't block it. His Form is too simple.

I can do that too.

It took Kenobi 16.72 Seconds to cut off both hands.

I thought Kenobi was supposed to be blocking the Lightning from destroying Grievous. If Grievous moves, Dooku just turns his hand and ZAP! If Kit ran over, Dooku would use his available hand to put Kit down like the dog that he is.

Actually, he did it at the same time.

^ Dooku taking on two Lightsabers with one hand.

Do I have to get a GIF of when Dooku takes on both Anakin and Kenobi with one hand in RotS, DS19?

What? I did that Square/Circle thing just now. what are you talking about?

He used Force Grip to compact his lungs. Get it yet?

The hell it doesn't. That's the official website for STAR WARS.

The two sided staff that the Bodyguards were blocking bolts with earlier.

Sorgo doesn't know what he's talking about.

Okay, you want proof?
http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/nove...0125/index.html

Hope your happy. Now you can see that he not only got the script but got to talk to people at Lucasarts such as Sue Rostoni, Pablo Hidalgo (Episode III Set Diarist), and Jonathan Rinzler (author of The Making of Revenge of the Sith).

Ah, I see. Thanks for the enlightenment on that issue.

Moving on.

Uh huh. Where did you get that figure?

When Lightning hits you from the sky, Do you go fifty feet back like Mace did or fifteen feet back like Anakin did?

No. You shake up a bit and fall on your ass. Maybe a rare case were you fly back two to three feet.

Since when did it take alot of skill to hold up your lightsaber a block some lightning? AOTC Obi-Wan did it with ease.

It isn't an easy thing to do. Kenobi was damn good at using a defensive Form. I can imagine a defensive Form would be extremely effective at blocking that kind of shit.

LOL, yeah, except I times it with a stob watch. feel free to do it yourself if you don't believe me. Only don't lie about what you got.

Put down your stop watch and try looking at the Time Record at the top of the . . . Uh . . . Legal version of RotS.

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I thought Kenobi was supposed to be blocking the Lightning from destroying Grievous. If Grievous moves, Dooku just turns his hand and ZAP! If Kit ran over, Dooku would use his available hand to put Kit down like the dog that he is.

Grievous moves, Obi-Wan moves to. And Kit, being one of the strongest Jedi in the Order, can block lightning.

Grievous moves, Dooku intesifies his Lightning and one of the strands breaks through and pierces Grievous before Kenobi has the chance.

And Kit, having the most simple Lightsaber form (One that is taught to younglings) and getting killed by Sidious within seconds, doesn't dodge Lightning.

Maybe.

No, He did.

So what? Why the hell did you post that?

Because you said Dooku can't use one hand and shock someone and use the other to Duel. That's bullshit. I have provided evidence that he can.

If you want to, don't know why you would.

Read post above.

Sure you did.

You think because you cannot, others cannot?

No, he didn't. Read LOE.

Yeah, he did. Watch the cartoon.

Yes, it means as much as an EU book. So now you have one EU book on your side. Big deal. Hey, the databank also says GG beat Asajj and Durge at the same time, try telling that to Faunus or anybody else with common sense.

Of course Grievous did. That's what happened. Who the hell would deny that?

When were they ever blocking bolts?

Oh sorry about that. I was wrong about that. Bad on my part.

Dooku would not be able to take out any of them with lightning. His lightning sucks. Grievous is shown to be able to easily deflect heavy blaster fire from a ship in the CW cartoons easily. He would be able to block Dooku's weak lightning. And Shii-Cho may be basic bit is also the 2nd most defensive form. And Kit mastered it. He would be able to block it. And it is obvious that Kenobi would be able to block it. I don't even have to explain why.

The only way Dooku takes them all out with lightning is if he uses it while he is dueling (so using one hand to cut with his saber, and the other to wait for his opponent to be at a disadvantage and blast them with lightning), though it is questionable whther he would even be able to do that.

CW actions are overreacted what happens in there shouldn't be seen as something they can do normally... in the movies GG would never have been able to block that..

Maybe he wouldn't have been able to do it as easily, but I doubt he wouldn't be able to block it. I don't really know anything about Grievous outside ROTS and the CW cartoon, so I can't say for sure or give any other evidence.

Maybe he wouldn't have been able to do it as easily, but I doubt he wouldn't be able to block it. I don't really know anything about Grievous outside ROTS and the CW cartoon, so I can't say for sure or give any other evidence.

When Lightning hits you from the sky, Do you go fifty feet back like Mace did or fifteen feet back like Anakin did?

No. You shake up a bit and fall on your ass. Maybe a rare case were you fly back two to three feet.

It isn't an easy thing to do. Kenobi was damn good at using a defensive Form. I can imagine a defensive Form would be extremely effective at blocking that kind of shit.

Put down your stop watch and try looking at the Time Record at the top of the . . . Uh . . . Legal version of RotS.

Grievous moves, Dooku intesifies his Lightning and one of the strands breaks through and pierces Grievous before Kenobi has the chance.

And Kit, having the most simple Lightsaber form (One that is taught to younglings) and getting killed by Sidious within seconds, doesn't dodge Lightning.

Because you said Dooku can't use one hand and shock someone and use the other to Duel. That's bullshit. I have provided evidence that he can.

You think because you cannot, others cannot?

Yeah, he did. Watch the cartoon.

Of course Grievous did. That's what happened. Who the hell would deny that?

are u serious? Obi can take count Dooku alone... In Rots Obi-wan didn't use his full strength he was having fun, at the end he didn't know that he would get knocked out and get crushed.

Also, why is Schi-Cho that bad? Kreia makes a good point on this, it's sheer simplicity is it's strength.

Originally posted by Lord Mader
are u serious? Obi can take count Dooku alone... In Rots Obi-wan didn't use his full strength he was having fun, at the end he didn't know that he would get knocked out and get crushed.

You're joking right?

Originally posted by tdtd
You're joking right?

No I'm not.....Obi Wan beat Anakin... so why can't he beat Dooku....and Anakin beat Dooku pretty fast when he actually tried.

Because you're using the A>B>C argument which is 100% illogical. Obiwan beat Anakin, so? Anakin beat Dooku, so? Mace beat Sidious in a saber duel and Yoda didn't pwn Sidious as much as Mace did, does that mean Mace>Yoda? Learn to argue.

Shii-Cho is the 2nd best defensive form and because of its simplicity, not too many people even tried to master it, so the fact that he did gives him a slight edge.

Are you kidding me lol? Count Dooku would rip Obiwan to shreds. He was far superior than him in saber combat.

Originally posted by tdtd
Are you kidding me lol? Count Dooku would rip Obiwan to shreds. He was far superior than him in saber combat.

I was talking about Kit and saying it gives him a slight edge, not a slight edge over Dooku. That would just be rediculous.

oh good

Yeah, except lightning doesn't come from your side, it comes from above you.

You should still fly forward like you do with Sith Lightning. Mace flew fifty feet. The Lightning from above should make you fly back. Some people don't even hit the ground when Lightning strikes them in RL. Not to mention, regular lightning doesn't have a bundled series of strands like Sith Lightning and regular Lightning cannot cling on for a series of time.

Sith Lightning is more powerful. Bottom line.

In AOTC? he wasn't that good yet, just ok. But he just blocked it like it was nothing. Like I said before, it's not really any harder to block than a blaster bolt. Cause it really doesn't come at you any faster.

Like I said before, Obi Wan had a defensive stance and his Form teaches him how to block Blaster bolts.

If you think your f*cked up line of shit physics are correct, then Obi Wans form can block Lightning better than other forms because it blocks Bolts better than other forms.

Okay Sorgo, I did, I timed it, go time it yourself or shut up.

This is a debate. Learn to control yourself.

Uh huh. Just like Dooku did to Obi-Wan in AOTC?

Okay then. Dooku force grips Obi Wan just like he did in RotS, chucks him out of the way and THEN shocks Grievous.

I wonder if he can block Grip with his Lightsaber.

No, he blocks it.

Prove that he does. His form is simple and is known for simplistic Slashes and parries. Although it's a good form in it's simplicity, It just isn't advanced enough to teach how to block Lightning.

Lets see it.

Have you seen RotS? Dooku fights off two opponents with one hand. He fights off two Lightsabers in AotC and in the Cartoons TWICE. He can multi task and has one free hand. You think he wouldn't just shock the crap out of someone he taught if they tried to attack him? Please.

Okay, there's about a .5% chance that you did.

I'll repeat myself:

Just because you fail at doing it, doesn't mean other people cannot do it.

LOE > cartoon

Cartoon > LOE

Your the only one I know that says it actually happened.

ooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.

Are people unable to read?

You should still fly forward like you do with Sith Lightning. Mace flew fifty feet. The Lightning from above should make you fly back. Some people don't even hit the ground when Lightning strikes them in RL. Not to mention, regular lightning doesn't have a bundled series of strands like Sith Lightning and regular Lightning cannot cling on for a series of time.

If you think your f*cked up line of shit physics are correct, then Obi Wans form can block Lightning better than other forms because it blocks Bolts better than other forms.

This is a debate. Learn to control yourself.

Okay then. Dooku force grips Obi Wan just like he did in RotS, chucks him out of the way and THEN shocks Grievous.

Prove that he does. His form is simple and is known for simplistic Slashes and parries. Although it's a good form in it's simplicity, It just isn't advanced enough to teach how to block Lightning.

Have you seen RotS? Dooku fights off two opponents with one hand. He fights off two Lightsabers in AotC and in the Cartoons TWICE.

Just because you fail at doing it, doesn't mean other people cannot do it.

Cartoon > LOE

ooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.

The source of that battle is bullshit. It's the same comic where Han Solo lands on Earth. Bullshit. If you don't believe me ask anyone else on here. Someone you will believe.

Ive noticed alot of people using the Cw cartoon as a form of evidence. The Cw cartoons are the most non-cannon piceces of **** Lucas has ever sighned as "cannon". it is impossible to use that crappy cartoon to judge ones power because every jedi in that show is a force god. Mace Windu destroys thousands of battle droids with his fists, and a giant walker droid that is like twice the ize of an At-At...woth his fists. And later on Mace and yoda together take out like hundreds of thoussands of droids BY THEMSELVES. the cw cartoon is not cannon, and so should not be treated as such.