Originally posted by janus77
Surfer can attack on the sub-atomic level. and has change dna world-wide without any effort, if he even marginally exerted himself he could do that to almost anyone of Herald levels and below.
Shoulda coulda woulda. He hasn't. And I dont' think he can do it to MM. For one, MM has too much control over his own body. For two, MM would be mucking with Surfer's mind. Surfer wouldn't be able to concentrate on the more exotic of his abilities. He'd have to go for str8 over powering.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Shoulda coulda woulda. He hasn't. And I dont' think he can do it to MM. For one, MM has too much control over his own body. For two, MM would be mucking with Surfer's mind. Surfer wouldn't be able to concentrate on the more exotic of his abilities. He'd have to go for str8 over powering.
you think MM's gonna even have time to form a thought?
and even if MM was given the luxury of a second's life (which is highly improbable), Surfer's got telepathic abilities and considerable resistance.
MM's dead in a billion ways before Surfer's even mildly challenged by him ❌.
think of this, Surfer could just change the electrons around MM and leave him struggling to retain physical coherence. or make a million illusory "Surfers" and bewilder MM with them, then slip into microverse and inside MM's head and then pop back to full-size...
Originally posted by janus77
rofl ❌you think MM's gonna even have time to form a thought?
and even if MM was given the luxury of a second's life (which is highly improbable), Surfer's got telepathic abilities and considerable resistance.MM's dead in a billion ways before Surfer's even mildly challenged by him ❌.
think of this, Surfer could just change the electrons around MM and leave him struggling to retain physical coherence. or make a million illusory "Surfers" and bewilder MM with them, then slip into microverse and inside MM's head and then pop back to full-size...
Originally posted by Priest
If Superman can resist Martian ManHunter, Surfer can, easily.
Surfer 10/10
Um, Since when have Superman and surfer been on the same lvl when it came to will power, and telepathic resistance? Superman has uber T-Vo type power. That takes a strong mind to do that. Surfer and Superman aren't even comparible in that area. Surfer 7/10. MM has far too many powers and TP for surfer to get every single win out of 10.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI bet you believe the hyperbole of T-Vo...
Um, Since when have Superman and surfer been on the same lvl when it came to will power, and telepathic resistance? Superman has uber T-Vo type power. That takes a strong mind to do that. Surfer and Superman aren't even comparible in that area. Surfer 7/10. MM has far too many powers and TP for surfer to get every single win out of 10.
Also, Surfer resisted an attack that put Prof X in a coma. 😐
Not saying they are on the same level... but I doubt MM's TP is doing much at all. 😬
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I bet you believe the hyperbole of T-Vo...Also, Surfer resisted an attack that put Prof X in a coma. 😐
Not saying they are on the same level... but I doubt MM's TP is doing much at all. 😬
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlPerhaps... but it's still a good feat.
MM>>>>>>>>>>>Prof X. So I dont' see that as really any kind of proof. Also, who says the attack that put prof in the COma was the same strength? Was prof caught unaware? Was surfer ready for the same attack. These things make all the difference. I remember something like that in Ifinity Crusade. The details evade me right now tho. And T-Vo is what it is. I hate it. I hate superman. But it is what it is. MM's Tp would do something. I"m not saying it would do enough on it's own to get him a win, but It in conjuction with other attacks can get MM some wins.
Same type of attack, same 'madness', same writer, same comic, same look, indicates it was the same strength.
Both were caught unaware... Surfer got up. Surfer was also under Goddess's control at the time... he broke that too.
What is it? Overrated? I agree. 🙂 Can you even tell me what T-Vo can do?
Surfer's got amazing resistance... whether MM let's out a blast, or is in his mind. I can't see him doing much, even combined... 😬
And as much fun as I poke at MM, I really do like him, and I do read a lot of comics featuring him, but if that has to overidding to bug Martian_Mind... 😖hifty:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, Since when have Superman and surfer been on the same lvl when it came to will power, and telepathic resistance? Superman has uber T-Vo type power. That takes a strong mind to do that. Surfer and Superman aren't even comparible in that area. Surfer 7/10. MM has far too many powers and TP for surfer to get every single win out of 10.
Surfer has resisted Professor X and Moon Dragon w/ Mind Gem TP, both of whom has global TP feats.
Oh Surfer himself has a global TP feat under his belt
"Blanketing every every man, woman, child on the face of the earth"
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/143/silversurfer199713318ml1.jpg
Martian Man Hunter in no way is not messing with Surfer's head.
He has a SHIT LOAD of TP feats that makes it convincing enough that MM cant harm him.
